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[26132] Status of the EBICS Integration
Dear fellow Odooers,
i am coming back to a potential Odoo <-> EBICS integration.
First thanks to Luc DeMeyer from Noviat, Bettina Peiffer from
Digitally, Jacques-André Eberhard from Open Net and Thorsten Vocks from
OpenBig who all already provided valuable and knowledgable feedback on
the matter. As it seems Noviats modules
https://github.com/Noviat/account_ebics
are the only ones for full automation of banking interation with the
EBICS standard so far, but rely on a python fintech module
https://pypi.org/project/fintech/
that has a "free to use" license for a restricted environment and cost
quite a bit of money for production level usage besides creating a
lock-in.
https://www.joonis.de/de/fintech/prices/
As Luc told me, he wasn't successful in finding a "real" open source
alternative to that python module.
In that regard i have recenty found a Java based Open Source
implementation of an EBICS client
https://github.com/uwemaurer/ebics-java-client
and as Thorsten Vocks suggested some form of semi automation may also
be achieve by using the Java based banking tools of the Hibiscus
Banking application
https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/
Now to my question: I am wondering if somebody else in the community
found or is working on a python basis (i.e. Open Source Python Ebics
client) in that direction that solves the problem for the python world
or has made production level experiences with any from of end to end
Open Souce based integration.
Any feedback / comments on the matter are very much appreciated.
Best Frederik
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Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
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An der Eisenbahn 1
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Phone: +49 4105 56156-12
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Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
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by Frederik Kramer - 05:06 - 3 Nov 2020
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Re: [26132] Status of the EBICS Integration
Hi Alxandre, no i didn't find that yet but that sounds interesting. I will have a look into that. Thanks for the hint. Best and tty tomorrow ;-) Best Frederik Am Freitag, den 06.11.2020, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Alexandre Fayolle: > Hello Frederik, > > Did you check the status of GNU Taler project? As far as I can tell, > this project has a part called libeufin which does some EBICS things > (but I did not get a chance to dig into this properly yet) > > Alexandre > > > > On 03/11/2020 17:07, Frederik Kramer wrote: > > > Dear fellow Odooers, > > > > > > i am coming back to a potential Odoo <-> EBICS integration. > > > > > > First thanks to Luc DeMeyer from Noviat, Bettina Peiffer from > > > Digitally, Jacques-André Eberhard from Open Net and Thorsten Vocks > from > > > OpenBig who all already provided valuable and knowledgable feedback > on > > > the matter. As it seems Noviats modules > > > > > > https://github.com/Noviat/account_ebics > > > > > > are the only ones for full automation of banking interation with > the > > > EBICS standard so far, but rely on a python fintech module > > > > > > https://pypi.org/project/fintech/ > > > > > > that has a "free to use" license for a restricted environment and > cost > > > quite a bit of money for production level usage besides creating a > > > lock-in. > > > > > > https://www.joonis.de/de/fintech/prices/ > > > > > > As Luc told me, he wasn't successful in finding a "real" open > source > > > alternative to that python module. > > > > > > In that regard i have recenty found a Java based Open Source > > > implementation of an EBICS client > > > > > > https://github.com/uwemaurer/ebics-java-client > > > > > > and as Thorsten Vocks suggested some form of semi automation may > also > > > be achieve by using the Java based banking tools of the Hibiscus > > > Banking application > > > > > > https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/ > > > > > > Now to my question: I am wondering if somebody else in the > community > > > found or is working on a python basis (i.e. Open Source Python > Ebics > > > client) in that direction that solves the problem for the python > world > > > or has made production level experiences with any from of end to > end > > > Open Souce based integration. > > > > > > Any feedback / comments on the matter are very much appreciated. > > > > > > Best Frederik > > > > > > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der > Eisenbahn > > > 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156- > 10 > > > Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: > > > www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.- > Ing. > > > (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken > > > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: > > > DE815580155 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> > > > > > > > -- > Alexandre Fayolle > Chef de Projet > Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30 > > Camptocamp France SAS > 18 rue du Lac Saint André > 73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac > France > > http://www.camptocamp.com > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
by Frederik Kramer - 01:36 - 10 Nov 2020 -
Re: [26132] Status of the EBICS Integration
Hello Frederik, Did you check the status of GNU Taler project? As far as I can tell, this project has a part called libeufin which does some EBICS things (but I did not get a chance to dig into this properly yet) Alexandre On 03/11/2020 17:07, Frederik Kramer wrote: > Dear fellow Odooers, > > i am coming back to a potential Odoo <-> EBICS integration. > > First thanks to Luc DeMeyer from Noviat, Bettina Peiffer from > Digitally, Jacques-André Eberhard from Open Net and Thorsten Vocks from > OpenBig who all already provided valuable and knowledgable feedback on > the matter. As it seems Noviats modules > > https://github.com/Noviat/account_ebics > > are the only ones for full automation of banking interation with the > EBICS standard so far, but rely on a python fintech module > > https://pypi.org/project/fintech/ > > that has a "free to use" license for a restricted environment and cost > quite a bit of money for production level usage besides creating a > lock-in. > > https://www.joonis.de/de/fintech/prices/ > > As Luc told me, he wasn't successful in finding a "real" open source > alternative to that python module. > > In that regard i have recenty found a Java based Open Source > implementation of an EBICS client > > https://github.com/uwemaurer/ebics-java-client > > and as Thorsten Vocks suggested some form of semi automation may also > be achieve by using the Java based banking tools of the Hibiscus > Banking application > > https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/ > > Now to my question: I am wondering if somebody else in the community > found or is working on a python basis (i.e. Open Source Python Ebics > client) in that direction that solves the problem for the python world > or has made production level experiences with any from of end to end > Open Souce based integration. > > Any feedback / comments on the matter are very much appreciated. > > Best Frederik > > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn > 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 > Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: > www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. > (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: > DE815580155 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> > -- Alexandre Fayolle Chef de Projet Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30 Camptocamp France SAS 18 rue du Lac Saint André 73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac France http://www.camptocamp.com
by Alexandre Fayolle - 11:26 - 6 Nov 2020 -
Re: [26132] Status of the EBICS Integration
Hi,
Yes.it's not Open Source, but you can legally use it by signing an agreement05 novembre 2020 10:57 "Frederik Kramer" <frederik.kramer@initos.com> a écrit:Hi Jacques-André, thanks for your reply, but that is the library that is not really Open Source so i suppose you purchased a license or only use it with its very limited free capabilities ? Best Frederik Am Donnerstag, den 05.11.2020, 09:27 +0000 schrieb Open Net Sàrl / J-A Eberhard: > Hello, > > We based our devellopement on the > > https://pypi.org/project/fintech/ > and develop the specifics for the Swiss Market > > From what we know, in Germany, you will have much less to do as you > better stick to the norm as the Swiss do... > > 03 novembre 2020 17:07 "Frederik Kramer" <frederik.kramer@initos.com> > a écrit: > > Dear fellow Odooers, i am coming back to a potential Odoo <-> EBICS > > integration. First thanks to Luc DeMeyer from Noviat, Bettina > > Peiffer from Digitally, Jacques-André Eberhard from Open Net and > > Thorsten Vocks from OpenBig who all already provided valuable and > > knowledgable feedback on the matter. As it seems Noviats modules > > https://github.com/Noviat/account_ebics are the only ones for full > > automation of banking interation with the EBICS standard so far, > > but rely on a python fintech module > > https://pypi.org/project/fintech/ that has a "free to use" license > > for a restricted environment and cost quite a bit of money for > > production level usage besides creating a lock-in. > > https://www.joonis.de/de/fintech/prices/ As Luc told me, he wasn't > > successful in finding a "real" open source alternative to that > > python module. In that regard i have recenty found a Java based > > Open Source implementation of an EBICS client > > https://github.com/uwemaurer/ebics-java-client and as Thorsten > > Vocks suggested some form of semi automation may also be achieve by > > using the Java based banking tools of the Hibiscus Banking > > application https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/ Now to my > > question: I am wondering if somebody else in the community found or > > is working on a python basis (i.e. Open Source Python Ebics client) > > in that direction that solves the problem for the python world or > > has made production level experiences with any from of end to end > > Open Souce based integration. Any feedback / comments on the matter > > are very much appreciated. Best Frederik -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik > > Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 > > Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: > > +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: > > www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.- > > Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – > > Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 > > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155 > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > Avec mes cordiales salutations. > > Jacques-André Eberhard > CEO & Founder ● Certified Odoo Functionnal Specialist > > Open Net Sàrl ● Odoo Gold Partner > Rue de Genève 77 > 1004 Lausanne VD > www.open-net.ch > +41 21 701 42 45 > > Odoo Ne vivez plus avec vos problèmes, résolvez-les. > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: DE815580155_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribeAvec mes cordiales salutations.Jacques-André EberhardCEO & Founder ● Certified Odoo Functionnal SpecialistOpen Net Sàrl ● Odoo Gold PartnerRue de Genève 771004 Lausanne VD+41 21 701 42 45Odoo Ne vivez plus avec vos problèmes, résolvez-les.
by J-A Eberhard - 11:26 - 5 Nov 2020 -
Re: [26132] Status of the EBICS Integration
Hi Jacques-André, thanks for your reply, but that is the library that is not really Open Source so i suppose you purchased a license or only use it with its very limited free capabilities ? Best Frederik Am Donnerstag, den 05.11.2020, 09:27 +0000 schrieb Open Net Sàrl / J-A Eberhard: > Hello, > > We based our devellopement on the > > https://pypi.org/project/fintech/ > and develop the specifics for the Swiss Market > > From what we know, in Germany, you will have much less to do as you > better stick to the norm as the Swiss do... > > 03 novembre 2020 17:07 "Frederik Kramer" <frederik.kramer@initos.com> > a écrit: > > Dear fellow Odooers, i am coming back to a potential Odoo <-> EBICS > > integration. First thanks to Luc DeMeyer from Noviat, Bettina > > Peiffer from Digitally, Jacques-André Eberhard from Open Net and > > Thorsten Vocks from OpenBig who all already provided valuable and > > knowledgable feedback on the matter. As it seems Noviats modules > > https://github.com/Noviat/account_ebics are the only ones for full > > automation of banking interation with the EBICS standard so far, > > but rely on a python fintech module > > https://pypi.org/project/fintech/ that has a "free to use" license > > for a restricted environment and cost quite a bit of money for > > production level usage besides creating a lock-in. > > https://www.joonis.de/de/fintech/prices/ As Luc told me, he wasn't > > successful in finding a "real" open source alternative to that > > python module. In that regard i have recenty found a Java based > > Open Source implementation of an EBICS client > > https://github.com/uwemaurer/ebics-java-client and as Thorsten > > Vocks suggested some form of semi automation may also be achieve by > > using the Java based banking tools of the Hibiscus Banking > > application https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/ Now to my > > question: I am wondering if somebody else in the community found or > > is working on a python basis (i.e. Open Source Python Ebics client) > > in that direction that solves the problem for the python world or > > has made production level experiences with any from of end to end > > Open Souce based integration. Any feedback / comments on the matter > > are very much appreciated. Best Frederik -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik > > Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 > > Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: > > +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: > > www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.- > > Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – > > Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 > > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155 > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > Avec mes cordiales salutations. > > Jacques-André Eberhard > CEO & Founder ● Certified Odoo Functionnal Specialist > > Open Net Sàrl ● Odoo Gold Partner > Rue de Genève 77 > 1004 Lausanne VD > www.open-net.ch > +41 21 701 42 45 > > Odoo Ne vivez plus avec vos problèmes, résolvez-les. > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
by Frederik Kramer - 10:56 - 5 Nov 2020 -
Re: [26132] Status of the EBICS Integration
Hello,
We based our devellopement on thehttps://pypi.org/project/fintech/
and develop the specifics for the Swiss Market
From what we know, in Germany, you will have much less to do as you better stick to the norm as the Swiss do...03 novembre 2020 17:07 "Frederik Kramer" <frederik.kramer@initos.com> a écrit:Dear fellow Odooers, i am coming back to a potential Odoo <-> EBICS integration. First thanks to Luc DeMeyer from Noviat, Bettina Peiffer from Digitally, Jacques-André Eberhard from Open Net and Thorsten Vocks from OpenBig who all already provided valuable and knowledgable feedback on the matter. As it seems Noviats modules https://github.com/Noviat/account_ebics are the only ones for full automation of banking interation with the EBICS standard so far, but rely on a python fintech module https://pypi.org/project/fintech/ that has a "free to use" license for a restricted environment and cost quite a bit of money for production level usage besides creating a lock-in. https://www.joonis.de/de/fintech/prices/ As Luc told me, he wasn't successful in finding a "real" open source alternative to that python module. In that regard i have recenty found a Java based Open Source implementation of an EBICS client https://github.com/uwemaurer/ebics-java-client and as Thorsten Vocks suggested some form of semi automation may also be achieve by using the Java based banking tools of the Hibiscus Banking application https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/ Now to my question: I am wondering if somebody else in the community found or is working on a python basis (i.e. Open Source Python Ebics client) in that direction that solves the problem for the python world or has made production level experiences with any from of end to end Open Souce based integration. Any feedback / comments on the matter are very much appreciated. Best Frederik -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: DE815580155_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribeAvec mes cordiales salutations.Jacques-André EberhardCEO & Founder ● Certified Odoo Functionnal SpecialistOpen Net Sàrl ● Odoo Gold PartnerRue de Genève 771004 Lausanne VD+41 21 701 42 45Odoo Ne vivez plus avec vos problèmes, résolvez-les.
by J-A Eberhard - 10:25 - 5 Nov 2020