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New module derived from Odoo CE licensing/credits question

Hello,

I have modified module website_sale_comparison from Odoo CE into website_sale_custom_info_comparison to work with website_sale_custom_info (based on PR from 9.0 by Jairo Llopis - will create PR for 13.0 soon) which uses product_custom_info. The modifications are really minimal: removed some unneeded code and templates (as these are already present in custom_info), rework of method _prepare_categories_for_display of product.product to work with custom info and slight changes to template displaying the comparison table. So basically it is 90% Odoo code, 10% of modifications.

Licensing-vise it should be OK as Odoo is LGPL v3. However my understanding is that original author should be kept there if this was to be included in OCA repository. Any comments on how to do this properly? I mean shoudl I just put Odoo as one of the authors or look up commits to these files in git? Would such module be acceptable for OCA?

Any comments are welcome. Best regards

	Radovan Skolnik



by Radovan Skolnik - 01:21 - 30 Jul 2021

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  • Re: New module derived from Odoo CE licensing/credits question
    Hi,

    A couple things from what happens in practice.

    Firstly in this case it seems unnecessary. So it is better not to. It is always preferable not to.

    Secondly, the purpose of that clause in CLA is mostly 3 fold. 

    1 it allows us to change a license to another OSI approved license without having to gain approval of all copyright holders.
    2 it allows us to defend the copyrights in court (in many jurisdictions including the US you must have a 100% claim to be able to take a court case).
    3 it gives us protection over the history of the copyright and licence (e.g. that the code isn't "stolen" from a private code base, basically that it is licensed correctly)

    For Odoo SA derived code, of which we have quite a bit, not just OCB, we effectively have option 1 off the table. We just notate the README as such for those modules that we cannot change license without Odoo SA approval. In practice, this is a minor concern. If Odoo SA relicenses, and the module is still current, then we can relicense to the same to be compatible. Otherwise, we might need to ask their permission, which is in their interest. 

    For the second case, in any such action, Odoo SA is a) going to take action themselves, b) we'd have to join them in court action and it is likely to be in their interest, c) it isn't worth it.

    It is kind of 1 of the 2 exceptions for pragmatic purposes to the CLA. And in large part it is because in any enforcement we either don't care or our interests are aligned. The other exception is where 3rd party content is bundled, such as js libs. But again, we don't care, because we wouldn't want to defend or change license.

    The 3rd case doesn't matter, as Odoo SA has an upstream CLA and we can check the license.



    On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 9:37 PM Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com> wrote:
    Am Freitag, den 30.07.2021, 18:29 +0200 schrieb Radovan Skolnik:
    
    
    > Frederik,
    
    HI Radovan,
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > it will be interesting to hear on this licensing-vise. Regarding
    
    
    > this:
    
    
    > > but they also inheretly hand over rights (that they
    
    
    > > don't own) to the OCA in the first place.
    
    
    > From my understanding you can fork/modify all you want provided you
    
    
    > keep the 
    
    
    > original author and license as well and distribute such work further.
    
    yes for the LGPL that is perfectly fine.
    
    
    
    > For me 
    
    
    > this seems like this scenario: someone (in this case S.A.) publishes
    
    
    > module 
    
    
    > under LGPLv3. Someone else (in this case me) takes it, modifies its 
    
    
    > functionality retaining original copyright as well and submits it to
    
    
    > be 
    
    
    > included in some other project (OCA) with the same licensing. I fail
    
    
    > to see 
    
    
    > where a problem could be in this scenario. But I am not alawyer ;-)
    
    The problem here is 
    
    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OCA/odoo-community.org/master/the-association/ICLA.pdf
    
    Section 3.b:
    
    "You own the Copyright and patent claims covering the Contribution
    which are required to grant
    the rights under Section 2."
    
    As you "own" only your contribution but the code that you contribute
    is, as you said 90% done elsewere and by somebody else not filling this
    ICLA (i.e. S.A.), this paragraph is simply not applying. 
    
    Anyway as i said this is the very same problem (as Holger pointed out)
    with the OCB code, so i wonder how we as a community deal with that.
    Thats why am loudly asking for others' opinion. 
    
    Disclaimer: I am no lawyer mayself either but i have dealt with these 
    matters in my scientific carreer quite a bit.
    
    Best and have a nice weekend 
    
    Frederik  
    
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > However what Holger suggested is probably much better approach. My
    
    
    > module 
    
    
    > will:
    
    
    > 1) depend on the Odoo one
    
    
    > 2) only modify stuff that is different
    
    
    > 3) disable what is not needed from the original one
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > This will provide pretty simple/dense module.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Best regards
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > 	Radovan
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > On piatok 30. júla 2021 18:17:04 CEST Frederik Kramer wrote:
    
    
    > > Hi Radovan,
    
    
    > > i tend to agree to what Holger just said, but you hit a general
    
    
    > > problem
    
    
    > > that to me is somewhat unsolved. This is as follows:
    
    
    > > OCA is requiring (and checking) if contributions are made by
    
    
    > > contributors that have signed the ICLA / CLA. By signing these
    
    
    > > documents one claims that the code he or she add to he baseline is
    
    
    > > his
    
    
    > > / her own in its entirety.
    
    
    > > Now afaik S.A. itself (though publishing its core code in LGPLv3)
    
    
    > > isn't
    
    
    > > officially contributing to the OCA but other OCA contributors do.
    
    
    > > This
    
    
    > > means by pushing the OCB code these contributors already work in a
    
    
    > > grey
    
    
    > > zone because what they do is legally absolutely fine (i.e.
    
    
    > > contributing
    
    
    > > to LGPLed code) but they also inheretly hand over rights (that they
    
    
    > > don't own) to the OCA in the first place.
    
    
    > > I might be wrong but OCB is a special case and your contribution
    
    
    > > would
    
    
    > > be like OCB (as Holger just said) but it cannot be treated an
    
    
    > > ordinary
    
    
    > > contribution to an arbitrary OCA repo, at least if we as the
    
    
    > > community
    
    
    > > would retain the right to defend the IPR of the entire set of code
    
    
    > > against uncompliant use (example Flectra).
    
    
    > > With that having said, i kindly ask you to wait pushing the code
    
    
    > > until
    
    
    > > some other (prefierably long term contributors and members have
    
    
    > > added
    
    
    > > their interpretation of the legal case). Ususally our vice
    
    
    > > president
    
    
    > > Graeme has some nice and valuable thoughts on these matters.
    
    
    > > Best and have a nice weekend
    
    
    > > Frederik
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > Am Freitag, den 30.07.2021, 15:56 +0000 schrieb Radovan Skolnik:
    
    
    > > > Holger,
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > thanx for an input. I initially thought to make it in a way so
    
    
    > > > that
    
    
    > > > both modules can work side-by-side. But that is probably pretty
    
    
    > > > useless so your idea is actually pretty good and would make the
    
    
    > > > module really small.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > The code and templates I removed are for
    
    
    > > > product.attribute.category
    
    
    > > > for product.attribute to group them. I think I cannot (can I?)
    
    
    > > > disable the code so the additional object/table/column will be
    
    
    > > > there.
    
    
    > > > However I would like to disable the templates relating to these
    
    
    > > > so
    
    
    > > > they do not confuse the user. According to a Google search it can
    
    
    > > > be
    
    
    > > > done in this way:
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > <record id="full_external_id_of_the_template" model="ir.ui.view">
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > >     <field name="active" eval="False"/>
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > </record>
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > If I uninstall my module will the active statu return to its
    
    
    > > > previous
    
    
    > > > state? Should I use anything like that or just document in the
    
    
    > > > readme
    
    
    > > > that the product.attribute.category is useless while using
    
    
    > > > custom.info?
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Best regards
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Radovan
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > On piatok 30. júla 2021 13:47:19 CEST Holger Brunn wrote:
    
    
    > > > > > Would such module be acceptable for OCA? Any comments
    
    
    > > > > > are welcome. Best regards
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > shouldn't be very different than backporting an Odoo SA module,
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > right?
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > https://github.com/OCA/odoo-community.org/blob/master/website/Contribution
    
    
    > > > /
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > > CONTRIBUTING.rst#backporting-odoo-modules
    
    
    > > > > But if there's so little changes, why can't you just depend on
    
    
    > > > > the
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > module
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > > and change what's to be changed in your code?
    
    
    > > > > _______________________________________________
    
    
    > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    
    > > > >  [1]
    
    
    > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
    
    > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe [2]
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > [1] https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    
    > > > > [2] https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
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    by Graeme Gellatly - 09:11 - 31 Jul 2021
  • Re: New module derived from Odoo CE licensing/credits question
    Am Freitag, den 30.07.2021, 18:29 +0200 schrieb Radovan Skolnik:
    
    > Frederik,
    
    HI Radovan,
    
    
    > 
    
    > it will be interesting to hear on this licensing-vise. Regarding
    
    > this:
    
    > > but they also inheretly hand over rights (that they
    
    > > don't own) to the OCA in the first place.
    
    > From my understanding you can fork/modify all you want provided you
    
    > keep the 
    
    > original author and license as well and distribute such work further.
    
    yes for the LGPL that is perfectly fine.
    
    
    > For me 
    
    > this seems like this scenario: someone (in this case S.A.) publishes
    
    > module 
    
    > under LGPLv3. Someone else (in this case me) takes it, modifies its 
    
    > functionality retaining original copyright as well and submits it to
    
    > be 
    
    > included in some other project (OCA) with the same licensing. I fail
    
    > to see 
    
    > where a problem could be in this scenario. But I am not alawyer ;-)
    
    The problem here is 
    
    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OCA/odoo-community.org/master/the-association/ICLA.pdf
    
    Section 3.b:
    
    "You own the Copyright and patent claims covering the Contribution
    which are required to grant
    the rights under Section 2."
    
    As you "own" only your contribution but the code that you contribute
    is, as you said 90% done elsewere and by somebody else not filling this
    ICLA (i.e. S.A.), this paragraph is simply not applying. 
    
    Anyway as i said this is the very same problem (as Holger pointed out)
    with the OCB code, so i wonder how we as a community deal with that.
    Thats why am loudly asking for others' opinion. 
    
    Disclaimer: I am no lawyer mayself either but i have dealt with these 
    matters in my scientific carreer quite a bit.
    
    Best and have a nice weekend 
    
    Frederik  
    
    
    
    > 
    
    > However what Holger suggested is probably much better approach. My
    
    > module 
    
    > will:
    
    > 1) depend on the Odoo one
    
    > 2) only modify stuff that is different
    
    > 3) disable what is not needed from the original one
    
    > 
    
    > This will provide pretty simple/dense module.
    
    > 
    
    > Best regards
    
    > 
    
    > 	Radovan
    
    > 
    
    > On piatok 30. júla 2021 18:17:04 CEST Frederik Kramer wrote:
    
    > > Hi Radovan,
    
    > > i tend to agree to what Holger just said, but you hit a general
    
    > > problem
    
    > > that to me is somewhat unsolved. This is as follows:
    
    > > OCA is requiring (and checking) if contributions are made by
    
    > > contributors that have signed the ICLA / CLA. By signing these
    
    > > documents one claims that the code he or she add to he baseline is
    
    > > his
    
    > > / her own in its entirety.
    
    > > Now afaik S.A. itself (though publishing its core code in LGPLv3)
    
    > > isn't
    
    > > officially contributing to the OCA but other OCA contributors do.
    
    > > This
    
    > > means by pushing the OCB code these contributors already work in a
    
    > > grey
    
    > > zone because what they do is legally absolutely fine (i.e.
    
    > > contributing
    
    > > to LGPLed code) but they also inheretly hand over rights (that they
    
    > > don't own) to the OCA in the first place.
    
    > > I might be wrong but OCB is a special case and your contribution
    
    > > would
    
    > > be like OCB (as Holger just said) but it cannot be treated an
    
    > > ordinary
    
    > > contribution to an arbitrary OCA repo, at least if we as the
    
    > > community
    
    > > would retain the right to defend the IPR of the entire set of code
    
    > > against uncompliant use (example Flectra).
    
    > > With that having said, i kindly ask you to wait pushing the code
    
    > > until
    
    > > some other (prefierably long term contributors and members have
    
    > > added
    
    > > their interpretation of the legal case). Ususally our vice
    
    > > president
    
    > > Graeme has some nice and valuable thoughts on these matters.
    
    > > Best and have a nice weekend
    
    > > Frederik
    
    > > 
    
    > > Am Freitag, den 30.07.2021, 15:56 +0000 schrieb Radovan Skolnik:
    
    > > > Holger,
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > thanx for an input. I initially thought to make it in a way so
    
    > > > that
    
    > > > both modules can work side-by-side. But that is probably pretty
    
    > > > useless so your idea is actually pretty good and would make the
    
    > > > module really small.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > The code and templates I removed are for
    
    > > > product.attribute.category
    
    > > > for product.attribute to group them. I think I cannot (can I?)
    
    > > > disable the code so the additional object/table/column will be
    
    > > > there.
    
    > > > However I would like to disable the templates relating to these
    
    > > > so
    
    > > > they do not confuse the user. According to a Google search it can
    
    > > > be
    
    > > > done in this way:
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > <record id="full_external_id_of_the_template" model="ir.ui.view">
    
    > > > 
    
    > > >     <field name="active" eval="False"/>
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > </record>
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > If I uninstall my module will the active statu return to its
    
    > > > previous
    
    > > > state? Should I use anything like that or just document in the
    
    > > > readme
    
    > > > that the product.attribute.category is useless while using
    
    > > > custom.info?
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Best regards
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Radovan
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > On piatok 30. júla 2021 13:47:19 CEST Holger Brunn wrote:
    
    > > > > > Would such module be acceptable for OCA? Any comments
    
    > > > > > are welcome. Best regards
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > shouldn't be very different than backporting an Odoo SA module,
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > right?
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > https://github.com/OCA/odoo-community.org/blob/master/website/Contribution
    
    > > > /
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > > CONTRIBUTING.rst#backporting-odoo-modules
    
    > > > > But if there's so little changes, why can't you just depend on
    
    > > > > the
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > module
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > > and change what's to be changed in your code?
    
    > > > > _______________________________________________
    
    > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    > > > >  [1]
    
    > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
    > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe [2]
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
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    > > > > [2] https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
    
    > > > 
    
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    > > --
    
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    > > initOS GmbH
    
    > > An der Eisenbahn 1
    
    > > 21224 Rosengarten
    
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    by Frederik Kramer - 11:36 - 31 Jul 2021
  • Re: New module derived from Odoo CE licensing/credits question
    Frederik,
    
    it will be interesting to hear on this licensing-vise. Regarding this:
    
    > but they also inheretly hand over rights (that they
    
    > don't own) to the OCA in the first place.
    From my understanding you can fork/modify all you want provided you keep the 
    original author and license as well and distribute such work further. For me 
    this seems like this scenario: someone (in this case S.A.) publishes module 
    under LGPLv3. Someone else (in this case me) takes it, modifies its 
    functionality retaining original copyright as well and submits it to be 
    included in some other project (OCA) with the same licensing. I fail to see 
    where a problem could be in this scenario. But I am not alawyer ;-)
    
    However what Holger suggested is probably much better approach. My module 
    will:
    1) depend on the Odoo one
    2) only modify stuff that is different
    3) disable what is not needed from the original one
    
    This will provide pretty simple/dense module.
    
    Best regards
    
    	Radovan
    
    On piatok 30. júla 2021 18:17:04 CEST Frederik Kramer wrote:
    
    > Hi Radovan,
    
    > i tend to agree to what Holger just said, but you hit a general problem
    
    > that to me is somewhat unsolved. This is as follows:
    
    > OCA is requiring (and checking) if contributions are made by
    
    > contributors that have signed the ICLA / CLA. By signing these
    
    > documents one claims that the code he or she add to he baseline is his
    
    > / her own in its entirety.
    
    > Now afaik S.A. itself (though publishing its core code in LGPLv3) isn't
    
    > officially contributing to the OCA but other OCA contributors do. This
    
    > means by pushing the OCB code these contributors already work in a grey
    
    > zone because what they do is legally absolutely fine (i.e. contributing
    
    > to LGPLed code) but they also inheretly hand over rights (that they
    
    > don't own) to the OCA in the first place.
    
    > I might be wrong but OCB is a special case and your contribution would
    
    > be like OCB (as Holger just said) but it cannot be treated an ordinary
    
    > contribution to an arbitrary OCA repo, at least if we as the community
    
    > would retain the right to defend the IPR of the entire set of code
    
    > against uncompliant use (example Flectra).
    
    > With that having said, i kindly ask you to wait pushing the code until
    
    > some other (prefierably long term contributors and members have added
    
    > their interpretation of the legal case). Ususally our vice president
    
    > Graeme has some nice and valuable thoughts on these matters.
    
    > Best and have a nice weekend
    
    > Frederik
    
    > 
    
    > Am Freitag, den 30.07.2021, 15:56 +0000 schrieb Radovan Skolnik:
    
    > > Holger,
    
    > > 
    
    > > thanx for an input. I initially thought to make it in a way so that
    
    > > both modules can work side-by-side. But that is probably pretty
    
    > > useless so your idea is actually pretty good and would make the
    
    > > module really small.
    
    > > 
    
    > > The code and templates I removed are for product.attribute.category
    
    > > for product.attribute to group them. I think I cannot (can I?)
    
    > > disable the code so the additional object/table/column will be there.
    
    > > However I would like to disable the templates relating to these so
    
    > > they do not confuse the user. According to a Google search it can be
    
    > > done in this way:
    
    > > 
    
    > > <record id="full_external_id_of_the_template" model="ir.ui.view">
    
    > > 
    
    > >     <field name="active" eval="False"/>
    
    > > 
    
    > > </record>
    
    > > 
    
    > > If I uninstall my module will the active statu return to its previous
    
    > > state? Should I use anything like that or just document in the readme
    
    > > that the product.attribute.category is useless while using
    
    > > custom.info?
    
    > > 
    
    > > Best regards
    
    > > 
    
    > > Radovan
    
    > > 
    
    > > On piatok 30. júla 2021 13:47:19 CEST Holger Brunn wrote:
    
    > > > > Would such module be acceptable for OCA? Any comments
    
    > > > > are welcome. Best regards
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > shouldn't be very different than backporting an Odoo SA module,
    
    > > 
    
    > > right?
    
    > > 
    
    > > https://github.com/OCA/odoo-community.org/blob/master/website/Contribution
    
    > > /
    
    > > 
    
    > > > CONTRIBUTING.rst#backporting-odoo-modules
    
    > > > But if there's so little changes, why can't you just depend on the
    
    > > 
    
    > > module
    
    > > 
    
    > > > and change what's to be changed in your code?
    
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    by Radovan Skolnik - 06:31 - 30 Jul 2021
  • Re: New module derived from Odoo CE licensing/credits question
    Hi Radovan, 
    
    i tend to agree to what Holger just said, but you hit a general problem
    that to me is somewhat unsolved. This is as follows:
    
    OCA is requiring (and checking) if contributions are made by
    contributors that have signed the ICLA / CLA. By signing these
    documents one claims that the code he or she add to he baseline is his
    / her own in its entirety. 
    
    Now afaik S.A. itself (though publishing its core code in LGPLv3) isn't
    officially contributing to the OCA but other OCA contributors do. This
    means by pushing the OCB code these contributors already work in a grey
    zone because what they do is legally absolutely fine (i.e. contributing
    to LGPLed code) but they also inheretly hand over rights (that they
    don't own) to the OCA in the first place. 
    
    I might be wrong but OCB is a special case and your contribution would
    be like OCB (as Holger just said) but it cannot be treated an ordinary
    contribution to an arbitrary OCA repo, at least if we as the community
    would retain the right to defend the IPR of the entire set of code
    against uncompliant use (example Flectra).
    
    With that having said, i kindly ask you to wait pushing the code until
    some other (prefierably long term contributors and members have added
    their interpretation of the legal case). Ususally our vice president
    Graeme has some nice and valuable thoughts on these matters.
    
    Best and have a nice weekend
    
    Frederik 
    
    Am Freitag, den 30.07.2021, 15:56 +0000 schrieb Radovan Skolnik:
    
    > Holger,
    
    >  
    
    > thanx for an input. I initially thought to make it in a way so that
    
    > both modules can work side-by-side. But that is probably pretty
    
    > useless so your idea is actually pretty good and would make the
    
    > module really small.
    
    >  
    
    > The code and templates I removed are for product.attribute.category
    
    > for product.attribute to group them. I think I cannot (can I?)
    
    > disable the code so the additional object/table/column will be there.
    
    > However I would like to disable the templates relating to these so
    
    > they do not confuse the user. According to a Google search it can be
    
    > done in this way:
    
    >  
    
    > <record id="full_external_id_of_the_template" model="ir.ui.view">
    
    >         <field name="active" eval="False"/>
    
    > </record>
    
    >  
    
    > If I uninstall my module will the active statu return to its previous
    
    > state? Should I use anything like that or just document in the readme
    
    > that the product.attribute.category is useless while using
    
    > custom.info?
    
    >  
    
    > Best regards
    
    >  
    
    > Radovan
    
    >  
    
    > On piatok 30. júla 2021 13:47:19 CEST Holger Brunn wrote:
    
    > > > Would such module be acceptable for OCA? Any comments
    
    > > > are welcome. Best regards
    
    > >
    
    > > shouldn't be very different than backporting an Odoo SA module,
    
    > right?
    
    > > 
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/odoo-community.org/blob/master/website/Contribution/
    
    > > CONTRIBUTING.rst#backporting-odoo-modules
    
    > > But if there's so little changes, why can't you just depend on the
    
    > module
    
    > > and change what's to be changed in your code?
    
    > > _______________________________________________
    
    > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 [1]
    
    > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
    > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe [2]
    
    > >
    
    > >
    
    > >
    
    > > [1] https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    > > [2] https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
    
    >  
    
    >  
    
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    by Frederik Kramer - 06:15 - 30 Jul 2021
  • Re: New module derived from Odoo CE licensing/credits question
    > The code and templates I removed are for product.attribute.category for
    
    > product.attribute to group them. I think I cannot (can I?) disable the code
    
    > so the additional object/table/column will be there. However I would like
    
    > to disable the templates relating to these so they do not confuse the user.
    
    > According to a Google search it can be done in this way:
    
    you can rewrite any qweb template with inheritance before it's evaluated, so 
    probably you can have some xpath and change the t-attributes, but
    
    
    > <record id="full_external_id_of_the_template" model="ir.ui.view">
    
    > <field name="active" eval="False"/>
    
    > </record>
    
    this seems much cleaner to me if it's the intention of this module to undo 
    something the other module does entirely.
    
    
    > If I uninstall my module will the active statu return to its previous state?
    
    > Should I use anything like that or just document in the readme that the
    
    > product.attribute.category is useless while using custom.info?
    
    it doesn't, but you can add an uninstall_hook to your module that sets the 
    active flag again.
    
    
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    by Holger Brunn - 06:15 - 30 Jul 2021