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OCA DMS - possibility to store documents on external storage?
Hello, I have a customer who would like to manage documents ala OCA/dms but would like them to be available on external storage system like Google Drive (for employees that do not use Odoo). They are interested in things lik Sale Orders, Invoices, ... to be available. Reading the docs / looking at the source it doesn't seem to it is directly possible / available. There is another whole repository that deals with external storage systems - OCA/storage which integrates such systems. But that stores the attachments/documents/images in a way that's not really friendly to the naked eye. Is such integration a good idea? Should it even be done or another approach should be taken? Or am I missing something? Any advice is highly welcome here. Best regards Radovan Skolnik
by Radovan Skolnik - 04:26 - 1 Oct 2023
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Re: OCA DMS - possibility to store documents on external storage?
And we have this one started by Holger Brunn and our own Florian Kantelberg
https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/11.0/base_dav/
But its also not exactly new :-)
Am 02.10.23 um 16:47 schrieb Xavier:
Are you talking about the faOtools module ?
Do you know is there is a tool to synchronize Odoo calendar with NextCloud (instead of Google) ?
Regards
Xavier
Le 2 octobre 2023 12:02:35 GMT+02:00, Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :Hi Johan,
i think the module you are referring is not Open Source (although in the cases i used it, it was working mostly fine) and i also do agree that we should not turn Odoo into something it should be. Nextcloud, while being an pretty solid and mature Open Source cloud tool, isn't a full blown document management system and for now doesn't pretend to be either. Besides that i thing "External Storage" captures quite a few additional use cases that are a way beyond the traditional DMS requirements. I think the only think that is probably missing is a External Storage connector in the OCA space that connects Odoo and Nextcloud via the NC API instead of using only the WebDav standard.
Best Frederik
Am 02.10.23 um 11:49 schrieb Johan Van Hirtum:
Dear,
In the app store there is an odoo / Nextcloud connector that is working fine. With this connector you have all you want. In Nextcloud you can easily share the documents you want with anyone you want, the way you want it. And the connector is easy to set up an use. Maybe there could be an extra method in it to rename the documents so that they are better searchable outside odoo. But it seems a little crazy to develop something as a full grown DMS when with Nextcloud ( and others ) there are already splendid, mature options that are fully open source, use postgres as their database and have an API that can be connected to from python -)
With kind regards,
Van Hirtum Johan
Van: Frederik Kramer [mailto:notifications@odoo-community.org]
Verzonden: zondag 1 oktober 2023 19:27
Aan: Contributors
Onderwerp: Re: OCA DMS - possibility to store documents on external storage?I for my part would definitely in favor of that! I often thought about such a feature. Maybe we can discuss the future during OCA days as suggested.
Best Frederik
Am 01.10.23 um 17:37 schrieb Enric Tobella Alomar:
We needed someone to test it. At the end this is something that joins storage and dms, so it is agnostic. Shall I reopen the PR?
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, 17:02 Radovan Skolnik, <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
Enric,
this is fantastic news! OCA is incredible. Can you share your thoughts on what
needs to be finished? Are there any caveats?
Thank you a lot!
Radovan
On nedeľa 1. októbra 2023 16:37:38 CEST Enric Tobella Alomar wrote:
> I made a PR on a sprint code with that idea, but it was never merged.
>
>
> https://github.com/OCA/dms/pull/182
>
>
>
> You could start from there.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> El dom, 1 oct 2023 a las 16:28, Radovan Skolnik
> (<notifications@odoo-community.org>) escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a customer who would like to manage documents ala OCA/dms but would
> like them to be available on external storage system like Google Drive (for
> employees that do not use Odoo). They are interested in things lik Sale
> Orders, Invoices, ... to be available. Reading the docs / looking at the
> source it doesn't seem to it is directly possible / available.
>
> There is another whole repository that deals with external storage systems -
> OCA/storage which integrates such systems. But that stores the
> attachments/documents/images in a way that's not really friendly to the
> naked eye.
>
> Is such integration a good idea? Should it even be done or another approach
> should be taken? Or am I missing something? Any advice is highly welcome
> here.
>
> Best regards
>
> Radovan Skolnik
>
>
>
>
>
>
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by Frederik Kramer - 08:41 - 4 Oct 2023 -
Re: OCA DMS - possibility to store documents on external storage?
Hi Xavier,
exactly this one. And now i am currently not aware of a proper (ideally backend agnostic) Odoo-CalDav implementation.
This is all damn old stuff -> https://www.odoo-code-search.com/ocs/search?q=caldav
Best Frederik
Am 02.10.23 um 16:47 schrieb Xavier:
Are you talking about the faOtools module ?
Do you know is there is a tool to synchronize Odoo calendar with NextCloud (instead of Google) ?
Regards
Xavier
Le 2 octobre 2023 12:02:35 GMT+02:00, Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :Hi Johan,
i think the module you are referring is not Open Source (although in the cases i used it, it was working mostly fine) and i also do agree that we should not turn Odoo into something it should be. Nextcloud, while being an pretty solid and mature Open Source cloud tool, isn't a full blown document management system and for now doesn't pretend to be either. Besides that i thing "External Storage" captures quite a few additional use cases that are a way beyond the traditional DMS requirements. I think the only think that is probably missing is a External Storage connector in the OCA space that connects Odoo and Nextcloud via the NC API instead of using only the WebDav standard.
Best Frederik
Am 02.10.23 um 11:49 schrieb Johan Van Hirtum:
Dear,
In the app store there is an odoo / Nextcloud connector that is working fine. With this connector you have all you want. In Nextcloud you can easily share the documents you want with anyone you want, the way you want it. And the connector is easy to set up an use. Maybe there could be an extra method in it to rename the documents so that they are better searchable outside odoo. But it seems a little crazy to develop something as a full grown DMS when with Nextcloud ( and others ) there are already splendid, mature options that are fully open source, use postgres as their database and have an API that can be connected to from python -)
With kind regards,
Van Hirtum Johan
Van: Frederik Kramer [mailto:notifications@odoo-community.org]
Verzonden: zondag 1 oktober 2023 19:27
Aan: Contributors
Onderwerp: Re: OCA DMS - possibility to store documents on external storage?I for my part would definitely in favor of that! I often thought about such a feature. Maybe we can discuss the future during OCA days as suggested.
Best Frederik
Am 01.10.23 um 17:37 schrieb Enric Tobella Alomar:
We needed someone to test it. At the end this is something that joins storage and dms, so it is agnostic. Shall I reopen the PR?
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, 17:02 Radovan Skolnik, <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
Enric,
this is fantastic news! OCA is incredible. Can you share your thoughts on what
needs to be finished? Are there any caveats?
Thank you a lot!
Radovan
On nedeľa 1. októbra 2023 16:37:38 CEST Enric Tobella Alomar wrote:
> I made a PR on a sprint code with that idea, but it was never merged.
>
>
> https://github.com/OCA/dms/pull/182
>
>
>
> You could start from there.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> El dom, 1 oct 2023 a las 16:28, Radovan Skolnik
> (<notifications@odoo-community.org>) escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a customer who would like to manage documents ala OCA/dms but would
> like them to be available on external storage system like Google Drive (for
> employees that do not use Odoo). They are interested in things lik Sale
> Orders, Invoices, ... to be available. Reading the docs / looking at the
> source it doesn't seem to it is directly possible / available.
>
> There is another whole repository that deals with external storage systems -
> OCA/storage which integrates such systems. But that stores the
> attachments/documents/images in a way that's not really friendly to the
> naked eye.
>
> Is such integration a good idea? Should it even be done or another approach
> should be taken? Or am I missing something? Any advice is highly welcome
> here.
>
> Best regards
>
> Radovan Skolnik
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Enric Tobella Alomar
> CEO & Founder
>
>
>
> www.dixmit.com
>
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by Frederik Kramer - 08:36 - 4 Oct 2023 -
Re: OCA DMS - possibility to store documents on external storage?
Hi laurent, I am talking about a combination of 2 repos basically: dms and storage. The idea is to use DMS for what it is supposed to be used but use external storage (customer asks for Google Drive) as its backend. The idea would be the documents managed in DMS wouls also be avilable from that external storage. For that, Enric's proposal seems a great fit to me... Best regards, Radovan On pondelok 2. októbra 2023 11:49:27 CEST Mignon, Laurent wrote: > Hi Radovan, > > > There is another whole repository that deals with external storage systems - > OCA/storage which integrates such systems. But that stores the > attachments/documents/images in a way that's not really friendly to the > naked eye. > > > Which branch of the oca/storage repo are you talking about? Can you > elaborate? On branch 160, the new fs_attachment module has been designed to > transparently provide the ability to store attachments in a wide range of > file systems such as azure, s3, ftp, etc... There are more specialized > modules to improve the developer experience when they deal with files into > odoo. At the ground you also have the fs_storage module that gives you > access to an unified filesytem interface object through the fsspec library. > Maybe the PR https://github.com/OCA/dms/pull/182 could take advantage of > this approach? Behind these new modules there is a lot of work to lower the > resources consumption when dealing with files into Odoo. (for example, the > fs_attachement module implements the streaming of the content's files when > a user downloads the file even if the file is stored into an external > filesystem, ...) > > > Regards, > > > lmi > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
by Radovan Skolnik - 12:35 - 2 Oct 2023