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Odoo POS and Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung (TSE)

Dear OCA contributors,

Have you heard of the german new regulation for POS called "Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung" (TSE)?

There's an old thread about this in this mailing list https://odoo-community.org/groups/germany-18/germany-151053.


Regards,
--
Jordi Ballester Alomar
CEO & Founder | ForgeFlow

by Jordi Ballester Alomar - 08:11 - 25 Aug 2020

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  • Re: Odoo POS and Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung (TSE)
    What do you mean by metadata in that regard ?
    
    Best Frederik
    
    Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2020, 13:27 +0000 schrieb Jordi Ballester
    Alomar:
    
    > But seems to require some extra metadata. Not sure yet. 
    
    > 
    
    > El mié., 30 sept. 2020 15:17, Frederik Kramer <
    
    > frederik.kramer@initos.com> escribió:
    
    > > Hi Jordi, 
    
    > > 
    
    > > i think the Models TM-T20III and TM-m30F do work. I think the older
    
    > > TM-
    
    > > T20 with USB can also be upgraded.
    
    > > 
    
    > > Best Frederik
    
    > > 
    
    > > Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2020, 13:02 +0000 schrieb Jordi Ballester
    
    > > Alomar:
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > Hi Thorsten, 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > Did you actually use any of the Epson printers? There's some
    
    > > metadata
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > that the printers expect. So perhaps it will not work out of the
    
    > > box.
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > El mar., 25 ago. 2020 10:27, Thorsten Vocks <
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > thorsten.vocks@big-consulting.net> escribió:
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Hello Jordi,
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > in the meantime there are some EPSON POS printers available,
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > capable to fulfill your mentioned requirements, for example the
    
    > > TM-
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > m30F.
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > For some prior existing EPSON POS printers there are upgrade
    
    > > kits
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > available.
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > As far as i know there is at the moment  no software solution
    
    > > (Odoo
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > module).
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Best regards
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Thorsten Vocks
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > openBIG.org
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Dipl. Kaufmann (FH)
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Porscheweg 4-6
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 49661 Cloppenburg
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Phone: +49 4471 8409000
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Fax: +49 4471 84090009
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Mail: thorsten.vocks@openbig.org
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Web: http://www.openbig.org
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > >               
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > Am Di., 25. Aug. 2020 um 08:12 Uhr schrieb Jordi Ballester
    
    > > Alomar <
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com>:
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > Dear OCA contributors,
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > Have you heard of the german new regulation for POS called
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > "Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung" (TSE)?
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > There's an old thread about this in this mailing list 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > https://odoo-community.org/groups/germany-18/germany-151053.
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > Regards,
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > -- 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > Jordi Ballester Alomar
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > CEO & Founder | ForgeFlow
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > (+34) 629530707 | jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com | 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > https://www.forgeflow.com
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > > > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordibforgeflow | Linkedin: 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
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    > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    
    > > Geschäftsführer
    
    > >         
    
    > > initOS GmbH
    
    > > An der Eisenbahn 1
    
    > > 21224 Rosengarten
    
    > >         
    
    > > Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    
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    > > Geschäftsführung:
    
    > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    > > 
    
    > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    
    > > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    
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    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
            
    initOS GmbH
    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
            
    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    

    by Frederik Kramer - 03:50 - 30 Sep 2020
  • Re: Odoo POS and Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung (TSE)
    But seems to require some extra metadata. Not sure yet. 

    El mié., 30 sept. 2020 15:17, Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com> escribió:
    Hi Jordi, 
    
    i think the Models TM-T20III and TM-m30F do work. I think the older TM-
    T20 with USB can also be upgraded.
    
    Best Frederik
    
    Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2020, 13:02 +0000 schrieb Jordi Ballester
    Alomar:
    
    
    > Hi Thorsten, 
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Did you actually use any of the Epson printers? There's some metadata
    
    
    > that the printers expect. So perhaps it will not work out of the box.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > El mar., 25 ago. 2020 10:27, Thorsten Vocks <
    
    
    > thorsten.vocks@big-consulting.net> escribió:
    
    
    > > Hello Jordi,
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > in the meantime there are some EPSON POS printers available,
    
    
    > > capable to fulfill your mentioned requirements, for example the TM-
    
    
    > > m30F.
    
    
    > > For some prior existing EPSON POS printers there are upgrade kits
    
    
    > > available.
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > As far as i know there is at the moment  no software solution (Odoo
    
    
    > > module).
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > Best regards
    
    
    > > Thorsten Vocks
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > openBIG.org
    
    
    > > Dipl. Kaufmann (FH)
    
    
    > > Porscheweg 4-6
    
    
    > > 49661 Cloppenburg
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > Phone: +49 4471 8409000
    
    
    > > Fax: +49 4471 84090009
    
    
    > > Mail: thorsten.vocks@openbig.org
    
    
    > > Web: http://www.openbig.org
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > >               
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > Am Di., 25. Aug. 2020 um 08:12 Uhr schrieb Jordi Ballester Alomar <
    
    
    > > jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com>:
    
    
    > > > Dear OCA contributors,
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Have you heard of the german new regulation for POS called
    
    
    > > > "Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung" (TSE)?
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > There's an old thread about this in this mailing list 
    
    
    > > > https://odoo-community.org/groups/germany-18/germany-151053.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Regards,
    
    
    > > > -- 
    
    
    > > > Jordi Ballester Alomar
    
    
    > > > CEO & Founder | ForgeFlow
    
    
    > > > (+34) 629530707 | jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com | 
    
    
    > > > https://www.forgeflow.com
    
    
    > > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordibforgeflow | Linkedin: 
    
    
    > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordiballesteralomar
    
    
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    Geschäftsführer
            
    initOS GmbH
    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
            
    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
    Geschäftsführung:
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    by Jordi Ballester Alomar - 03:26 - 30 Sep 2020
  • Re: Odoo POS and Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung (TSE)
    Hi Jordi, 
    
    i think the Models TM-T20III and TM-m30F do work. I think the older TM-
    T20 with USB can also be upgraded.
    
    Best Frederik
    
    Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2020, 13:02 +0000 schrieb Jordi Ballester
    Alomar:
    
    > Hi Thorsten, 
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > Did you actually use any of the Epson printers? There's some metadata
    
    > that the printers expect. So perhaps it will not work out of the box.
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > El mar., 25 ago. 2020 10:27, Thorsten Vocks <
    
    > thorsten.vocks@big-consulting.net> escribió:
    
    > > Hello Jordi,
    
    > > 
    
    > > in the meantime there are some EPSON POS printers available,
    
    > > capable to fulfill your mentioned requirements, for example the TM-
    
    > > m30F.
    
    > > For some prior existing EPSON POS printers there are upgrade kits
    
    > > available.
    
    > > 
    
    > > As far as i know there is at the moment  no software solution (Odoo
    
    > > module).
    
    > > 
    
    > > Best regards
    
    > > Thorsten Vocks
    
    > > 
    
    > > openBIG.org
    
    > > Dipl. Kaufmann (FH)
    
    > > Porscheweg 4-6
    
    > > 49661 Cloppenburg
    
    > > 
    
    > > Phone: +49 4471 8409000
    
    > > Fax: +49 4471 84090009
    
    > > Mail: thorsten.vocks@openbig.org
    
    > > Web: http://www.openbig.org
    
    > > 
    
    > >               
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > Am Di., 25. Aug. 2020 um 08:12 Uhr schrieb Jordi Ballester Alomar <
    
    > > jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com>:
    
    > > > Dear OCA contributors,
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Have you heard of the german new regulation for POS called
    
    > > > "Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung" (TSE)?
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > There's an old thread about this in this mailing list 
    
    > > > https://odoo-community.org/groups/germany-18/germany-151053.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Regards,
    
    > > > -- 
    
    > > > Jordi Ballester Alomar
    
    > > > CEO & Founder | ForgeFlow
    
    > > > (+34) 629530707 | jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com | 
    
    > > > https://www.forgeflow.com
    
    > > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordibforgeflow | Linkedin: 
    
    > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordiballesteralomar
    
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    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
            
    initOS GmbH
    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
            
    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    

    by Frederik Kramer - 03:16 - 30 Sep 2020
  • Re: Odoo POS and Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung (TSE)
    Hi Thorsten, 


    Did you actually use any of the Epson printers? There's some metadata that the printers expect. So perhaps it will not work out of the box.


    El mar., 25 ago. 2020 10:27, Thorsten Vocks <thorsten.vocks@big-consulting.net> escribió:
    Hello Jordi,

    in the meantime there are some EPSON POS printers available, capable to fulfill your mentioned requirements, for example the TM-m30F.
    For some prior existing EPSON POS printers there are upgrade kits available.

    As far as i know there is at the moment  no software solution (Odoo module).

    Best regards
    Thorsten Vocks

    openBIG.org
    Dipl. Kaufmann (FH)
    Porscheweg 4-6
    49661 Cloppenburg

    Phone: +49 4471 8409000
    Fax: +49 4471 84090009
    Mail: thorsten.vocks@openbig.org

                  


    Am Di., 25. Aug. 2020 um 08:12 Uhr schrieb Jordi Ballester Alomar <jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com>:
    Dear OCA contributors,

    Have you heard of the german new regulation for POS called "Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung" (TSE)?

    There's an old thread about this in this mailing list https://odoo-community.org/groups/germany-18/germany-151053.


    Regards,
    --
    Jordi Ballester Alomar
    CEO & Founder | ForgeFlow

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    by Jordi Ballester Alomar - 03:01 - 30 Sep 2020
  • Re: [24490] Re: Odoo POS and Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung (TSE)
    Thanks Thorsten and Frederik

    Probably in the short term the Epson is a good approach. Frederik, do you have more information on the Fiskaly integration? Seems like a good approach too. 


    Regards, 
    Jordi

    El mar., 25 ago. 2020 10:47, Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com> escribió:
    Hi Jordi, 
    
    yes that's a big issue in Germany. We are working on an odoo
    implementation already. There are mostly hardware implementations of
    TSEs (such as the Epson one Thorsten mentioned) and Software ones like
    Fiskaly which we are working on. 
    
    Most probably we will soon realize a python SDK together with Fiskaly
    that can be used to interact with the Fiskaly Cloud TSE. This in turn
    will be then used in an appropriate Odoo Module. So before doing
    something yourself feel free to ping me (and of course everybody else
    that is interested in the topic and has customers in Germany) and we
    can see how you can join the effort in the most efficient way 
    
    Cheers Frederik
    
    Am Dienstag, den 25.08.2020, 06:12 +0000 schrieb Jordi Ballester
    Alomar:
    
    
    > Dear OCA contributors,
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Have you heard of the german new regulation for POS called
    
    
    > "Technische Sicherheitseinrichtung" (TSE)?
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > There's an old thread about this in this mailing list 
    
    
    > https://odoo-community.org/groups/germany-18/germany-151053.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Regards,
    
    
    > -- 
    
    
    > Jordi Ballester Alomar
    
    
    > CEO & Founder | ForgeFlow
    
    
    > (+34) 629530707 | jordi.ballester@forgeflow.com | 
    
    
    > https://www.forgeflow.com
    
    
    > Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordibforgeflow | Linkedin: 
    
    
    > https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordiballesteralomar
    
    
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    Geschäftsführer
            
    initOS GmbH
    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
            
    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    

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    by Jordi Ballester Alomar - 08:36 - 25 Aug 2020