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Re: Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ)

I was one of the initial ones that create the module in OCA/account-closing, but later see that it's totally unneeded (it takes some time, I agree), and I don't think in Italy nor in Thailand is needed. It's only change resistant and excuses like "I don't see the closing journal entry in general ledger". Yeah, you don't have to see it because that entry was an auxiliary one and it's not required by any legal entity.

Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 01:30 - 19 Mar 2020

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  • Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ)
    Dear community,

    We are quite amused that now that Odoo no longer have "Generate Fiscal Year Opening Entries" which create OPEJ like in V8.

    Someone suggest to just use the report to close year end. But functional people see it as not a proper way to work.

    How do you guys process year end closing? Or should we bring back the same feature as in V8 to OCA?

    Kitti
    by Kitti Upariphutthiphong - 03:55 - 19 Mar 2020

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    • Re: Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ) 
      As Sergio said,
here in Italy is a mandatory law and all companies have to print the 
Year End Closing on the fiscal book.
When I used Odoo 7.0, I updated the OCA module to meet Italian Law and I 
have not (yet) migrated this module because I believed that OCA would 
had developed a new module to meet this law.

Best Regards


Il 19/03/20 17:02, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) ha scritto:

> Obviously I don't know your specific legislation, but it's very 

> doubtful that this trick, which was created due to limited computer 

> power, is mandatory by law. Any way, you can proceed as you consider, 

> and even keep migrating the module in OCA/account-closing and not in 

> localization repos, putting all these considerations in the README.

>

> Regards.

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      by Antonio M. Vigliotti - 05:26 - 19 Mar 2020
    • Re: Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ)
      Obviously I don't know your specific legislation, but it's very doubtful that this trick, which was created due to limited computer power, is mandatory by law. Any way, you can proceed as you consider, and even keep migrating the module in OCA/account-closing and not in localization repos, putting all these considerations in the README.

      Regards.
      by Pedro M. Baeza - 05:01 - 19 Mar 2020
    • Re: Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ)
      A business consultant give me ref. to 2217 c. 2 Civil Code, anyway all italian business consultant agree with this requirement, so it isn't debatable.
      Sergio Corato


      Il giorno gio 19 mar 2020 alle ore 13:32 Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> ha scritto:
      I was one of the initial ones that create the module in OCA/account-closing, but later see that it's totally unneeded (it takes some time, I agree), and I don't think in Italy nor in Thailand is needed. It's only change resistant and excuses like "I don't see the closing journal entry in general ledger". Yeah, you don't have to see it because that entry was an auxiliary one and it's not required by any legal entity.

      Regards.

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      by Sergio Corato - 04:56 - 19 Mar 2020
    • Re: Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ)
      I was one of the initial ones that create the module in OCA/account-closing, but later see that it's totally unneeded (it takes some time, I agree), and I don't think in Italy nor in Thailand is needed. It's only change resistant and excuses like "I don't see the closing journal entry in general ledger". Yeah, you don't have to see it because that entry was an auxiliary one and it's not required by any legal entity.

      Regards.
      by Pedro M. Baeza - 01:30 - 19 Mar 2020
    • Re: Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ)
      If you add this kind of functionality in the community version your moving away from Odoo Accounting in general. You should fix things in Reporting.

      I think it would be better to provide general clickable generic accounting reports like in Odoo Enterprise. For instance a profit and loss, trail balance and balance in Mis Builder. We have pdf reports but that is not enough in 2020.

      Regards,

      André Schenkels

      Van: Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>
      Verzonden: donderdag 19 maart 2020 08:37
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      Onderwerp: Re: Functional Question: Year End Closing in Odoo (OPEJ)
       
      Thank you Sergio,

      Surely +1 for me.

      Also want to understand why many people think it is not needed anymore. I try to find from issue, but see no explanation, just says it is not needed. May be functionally, there are good reasons not to have it?

      Thanks!

      On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:17 PM Sergio Corato <sergiocorato@gmail.com> wrote:
      Hi Kitti,
      the account year closing module wich was in account-closing repo until v. 10.0, and was moving to 11.0 with this PR but closed as not needed anymore, is mandatory in Italy, so I recovered it with this PR for 12.0.
      If it can be useful in other countries, I can move to account-closing repo if accepted from its PSC.
      Sergio Corato


      Il giorno gio 19 mar 2020 alle ore 03:57 Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> ha scritto:
      Dear community,

      We are quite amused that now that Odoo no longer have "Generate Fiscal Year Opening Entries" which create OPEJ like in V8.

      Someone suggest to just use the report to close year end. But functional people see it as not a proper way to work.

      How do you guys process year end closing? Or should we bring back the same feature as in V8 to OCA?

      Kitti

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      by André Schenkels - 12:21 - 19 Mar 2020