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Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
I approve what tblauwendraat already says. But as I've done exactly what you want to do, let me expand some points: We share the same background: I ran a web hosting company in the 90's, in that time where the sysadmins were doing a lot of various things, that are now different jobs. These experiences let me worked (and still working) for various companies, where I wear a number of hats, exactly like you. I convinced my wife to switch to Odoo, 8 years ago (she sells wooden toys as a retailer). We first worked with a partner who was not able to complete the job, so I take it to myself and we choosed Odoo Community which I host on a VPS. Understanding third party Apps was not easy. It takes me some years to learn who was doing good modules. Regarding quality of code and long time support, OCA Apps and OCA members are allways on top. Some others contribute sometimes on OCA and does a good jobs with their own modules : Ivan Yelizariev, IT-Projects, Cybrosys, Muk IT. I don't recommend Webkul modules: while their support is good, code is not. Regarding missing modules in Odoo Community, Accounting modules are available from OCA and others, Document Management System from Muk IT is believed to be quite good. Most missing modules are not really needed in small companies, because one can't handle everything. Upgrading Odoo Community is not a problem, it is often not required because, you know, when it works, it works. For example, I'm in the process of migrating my wife from Odoo 10 (7 years old) to Odoo 16. Also, small companies doesn't allways need full migration: after seven years with Odoo, my wife wanted to change lot of things. So while I import some products and customers, other datas are not needed. If you need full migration, the OCA's OpenUpgrade project is very good for that. I highly recommend to use the OCA's OCB Odoo repository, instead of Official Odoo packages. Except for learning because packages help to understand the install. OCB versions contains more bugfixes for longer time. Finding and reading documentation was also not easy. There are good books here and there, some videos from Odoo's annual meetings, ... It depends of your needs. I should write a list. Just as you, I've seen a lot of personal use cases for Odoo. I've learned this good advice from Fabien Pinkaers (Odoo creator): "With minimal changes, Odoo can do 80% of your needs, start with that. The other 20% takes a very long time. If something works well outside of Odoo, keep it as is for a while, there is no need to change." Similarily, while Odoo is quite intuitive, there is still a lot to learn. It can be hard for your wife. Start with the minimal module set as you can. Finally, I've learned a lot about Odoo. Now I consider myself as an acceptable functional partner, and I host Odoo for others. The hardest part to learn is how to configure and adapt the workflow to my wife's needs. Better with an external point of view and a good Odoo partner. Hope this help. --- Librement, Xavier Brochard xavier@alternatif.org La liberté est à l'homme ce que les ailes sont à l'oiseau (Jean-Pierre Rosnay) Le 29.01.2023 18:31, Charles Gucker a écrit : > Greetings, > I'm new to the Odoo community. I ran across Odoo while > looking for a Point of Sale for my girlfriend's business (brick and > mortar), but alas, we have been using GoHighLevel which has a lot of > overlap with Odoo. As a result, I was looking at the offerings from > Odoo with respect to the community edition and the enterprise > editions. But from what I can tell, enterprise subscriptions must > pay per user and Odoo.sh must host the deployment. > I wear a number of hats at a number of different companies, such > as the requirement for my girlfriend's business below, a not for > profit corporation, which could benefit greatly from efforts in Odoo, > as well as my full time job, which could use Odoo as a cloud services > provider for internal accounting and forecasting purposes. > All in all, I've been in the Internet industry for a long time > and have my own cabinet in a well connected data center with plenty of > compute and storage capabilities, so naturally, I would like to self > host. I spent a few hours trying to find Odoo resources, which is > how I found my way here. I also looked through the App directory, but > I was having a hard time reconciling the App directory with the > offerings included within the enterprise license. Does anybody have > a pointer to a URL, or documents, which go into any level of detail on > how to create the enterprise experience in a self-hosted environment? > As a side note, I would like to whitelabel the URL for my > girlfriend's business. Further, I would want to nest multiple client > instances within a deployment (for her clients' environments) and then > be able to white label a specific clients environment, but that's a > longer term vision. > Any help that could be provided to point me in the right > direction would be greatly appreciated. I see a lot of personal use > cases for Odoo, but am struggling to see where the current lines have > been drawn between enterprise and community. > Thank you in advance, > Charles
by xavier - 03:46 - 30 Jan 2023
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Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
Greetings, I'm new to the Odoo community. I ran across Odoo while looking for a Point of Sale for my girlfriend's business (brick and mortar), but alas, we have been using GoHighLevel which has a lot of overlap with Odoo. As a result, I was looking at the offerings from Odoo with respect to the community edition and the enterprise editions. But from what I can tell, enterprise subscriptions must pay per user and Odoo.sh must host the deployment. I wear a number of hats at a number of different companies, such as the requirement for my girlfriend's business below, a not for profit corporation, which could benefit greatly from efforts in Odoo, as well as my full time job, which could use Odoo as a cloud services provider for internal accounting and forecasting purposes. All in all, I've been in the Internet industry for a long time and have my own cabinet in a well connected data center with plenty of compute and storage capabilities, so naturally, I would like to self host. I spent a few hours trying to find Odoo resources, which is how I found my way here. I also looked through the App directory, but I was having a hard time reconciling the App directory with the offerings included within the enterprise license. Does anybody have a pointer to a URL, or documents, which go into any level of detail on how to create the enterprise experience in a self-hosted environment? As a side note, I would like to whitelabel the URL for my girlfriend's business. Further, I would want to nest multiple client instances within a deployment (for her clients' environments) and then be able to white label a specific clients environment, but that's a longer term vision. Any help that could be provided to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. I see a lot of personal use cases for Odoo, but am struggling to see where the current lines have been drawn between enterprise and community. Thank you in advance, Charles
by cgucker - 06:31 - 29 Jan 2023-
Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 6:12 PM Dev <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:The reason for it being complicated is to do with database setup. I haven't found any way to have a docker install creates no database, so you can open the page and create/restore a database as described in the docs for a new installation.
Ah, that makes sense. For local containers, we don't restore a database, so no problem. In production, I never wanted /web/database/manage to show up for even a second, so I have Terraform get the database into shape prior to running Odoo for the first time.
by Adam Heinz - 02:20 - 13 Feb 2023 -
Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 9:57 PM Dev <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
In terms of usage, installing the Enterprise version from source using Docker is complicated and poorly documented.
I'm a little surprised by this statement. I prototyped Enterprise a few times between v12 and v15 and seem to recall it being no more than adding an /mnt/enterprise-addons volume on top of the standard odoo:12-15 docker container. We do the exact same type of mounting for our own custom development and also for OCA modules. We ultimately decided not to go with it due to cost and legal arbitration being in Europe, but I still press my face up against the glass and stare longingly at the Spreadsheets module. ;-)
by Adam Heinz - 03:31 - 8 Feb 2023
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