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Re: Odoo instance in Azure/Google Cloud ?

Oh, Jordi.

I forgot that you can also use Preemptible VMs in Google Cloud with Kubernetes, this would reduce the cost by 40% - 60%.

Regards,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:56 PM Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> wrote:

Actually, this is a multi-tenant stack with v10, v12 using test and production environments. Right now is holding 10+ databases and around 80 users (and growing), it should hold over 100 users and 40/80 databases (but it's' a naive statement as this will impact the performance).

The tech stack consist of GKE (with Istio, instead of Nginx), Filestore (I'd prefer Buckets though), CloudSQL, Cloud Build (for CI/CD) and Memorystore (for sessions).

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:02 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
Thank you for sharing !

I am wondering, the $600 is for a single odoo stack/client ?
We are looking to start with only a simple k8s migration, with nginx, psql, odoo (12) to begin with.

Best,
Jord

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 13:47, Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> a écrit :
Hi Jordi,

It will actually depend on what you'd like to do, and the level of automation (CI/CD, GitOps, NoOps, etc).

As an example, we've been using Google Cloud for the last 8 months with Kubernetes (GKE). The hardest part is the designing everything and adapting each piece of Odoo to work in a multi-tenant and distributed system (I've been working on this Docker environment to accomplish thi ; but after everything is in place, your imagination is the limit. It comes at a cost, as it's not cheap. The cheapest setup that I've done is around US$600 and the most expensive around USD$3,000. But there's a bunch of variables (HA, Performance, GitOps, Diversity of environments [9,10,11,12 / dev, prod, staging].

Regards,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:47 AM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
hello list!

Here at Numigi, all of our infrastructure is under DigitalOcean. While pricewise we are very happy with them, technologically we start to see some stoppers (mainly the FileSystem of DigitalOcean that prevent scaling).
A while ago, we tried AWS, but the price at the end of the month was WAY too high.

Would you have experience with Azure or Google Cloud to host your favorite ERP ?
I wonder how expensive it is to be in these clouds. I would target Azure, as it is getting better and better compared to Google cloud.

Let's chat
Jordi

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by Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> - 06:01 - 1 Feb 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

Thanks :)

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 19:47, Russell Briggs <russ@paraflyer.net> a écrit :

Camptocamp cloud platform modules look awesome - thanks!

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020, 4:02 AM Stéphane Bidoul, <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi Jordi,

Don't forget the session storage if you go that route.

A good starting point is here: https://github.com/camptocamp/odoo-cloud-platform

-sbi

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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by Joël Grand Guillaume - 09:51 - 1 Feb 2020

Re: Odoo instance in Azure/Google Cloud ?

Actually, this is a multi-tenant stack with v10, v12 using test and production environments. Right now is holding 10+ databases and around 80 users (and growing), it should hold over 100 users and 40/80 databases (but it's' a naive statement as this will impact the performance).

The tech stack consist of GKE (with Istio, instead of Nginx), Filestore (I'd prefer Buckets though), CloudSQL, Cloud Build (for CI/CD) and Memorystore (for sessions).

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:02 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:

Thank you for sharing !

I am wondering, the $600 is for a single odoo stack/client ?
We are looking to start with only a simple k8s migration, with nginx, psql, odoo (12) to begin with.

Best,
Jord

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 13:47, Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> a écrit :
Hi Jordi,

It will actually depend on what you'd like to do, and the level of automation (CI/CD, GitOps, NoOps, etc).

As an example, we've been using Google Cloud for the last 8 months with Kubernetes (GKE). The hardest part is the designing everything and adapting each piece of Odoo to work in a multi-tenant and distributed system (I've been working on this Docker environment to accomplish thi ; but after everything is in place, your imagination is the limit. It comes at a cost, as it's not cheap. The cheapest setup that I've done is around US$600 and the most expensive around USD$3,000. But there's a bunch of variables (HA, Performance, GitOps, Diversity of environments [9,10,11,12 / dev, prod, staging].

Regards,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:47 AM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
hello list!

Here at Numigi, all of our infrastructure is under DigitalOcean. While pricewise we are very happy with them, technologically we start to see some stoppers (mainly the FileSystem of DigitalOcean that prevent scaling).
A while ago, we tried AWS, but the price at the end of the month was WAY too high.

Would you have experience with Azure or Google Cloud to host your favorite ERP ?
I wonder how expensive it is to be in these clouds. I would target Azure, as it is getting better and better compared to Google cloud.

Let's chat
Jordi

--
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by Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> - 09:00 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Odoo instance in Azure/Google Cloud ?

Did you try odoo.sh base? It is a digital ocean with steroids and scale by itself.

On Fri 31 Jan 2020 at 13:02 Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:

Thank you for sharing !

I am wondering, the $600 is for a single odoo stack/client ?
We are looking to start with only a simple k8s migration, with nginx, psql, odoo (12) to begin with.

Best,
Jord

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 13:47, Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> a écrit :
Hi Jordi,

It will actually depend on what you'd like to do, and the level of automation (CI/CD, GitOps, NoOps, etc).

As an example, we've been using Google Cloud for the last 8 months with Kubernetes (GKE). The hardest part is the designing everything and adapting each piece of Odoo to work in a multi-tenant and distributed system (I've been working on this Docker environment to accomplish thi ; but after everything is in place, your imagination is the limit. It comes at a cost, as it's not cheap. The cheapest setup that I've done is around US$600 and the most expensive around USD$3,000. But there's a bunch of variables (HA, Performance, GitOps, Diversity of environments [9,10,11,12 / dev, prod, staging].

Regards,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:47 AM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
hello list!

Here at Numigi, all of our infrastructure is under DigitalOcean. While pricewise we are very happy with them, technologically we start to see some stoppers (mainly the FileSystem of DigitalOcean that prevent scaling).
A while ago, we tried AWS, but the price at the end of the month was WAY too high.

Would you have experience with Azure or Google Cloud to host your favorite ERP ?
I wonder how expensive it is to be in these clouds. I would target Azure, as it is getting better and better compared to Google cloud.

Let's chat
Jordi

--
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NUMIGI SOLUTIONS INC.
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by Nhomar Hernández - 08:51 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Odoo instance in Azure/Google Cloud ?

Thank you for sharing !

I am wondering, the $600 is for a single odoo stack/client ?

We are looking to start with only a simple k8s migration, with nginx, psql, odoo (12) to begin with.

Best,

Jord

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 13:47, Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> a écrit :

Hi Jordi,

It will actually depend on what you'd like to do, and the level of automation (CI/CD, GitOps, NoOps, etc).

As an example, we've been using Google Cloud for the last 8 months with Kubernetes (GKE). The hardest part is the designing everything and adapting each piece of Odoo to work in a multi-tenant and distributed system (I've been working on this Docker environment to accomplish thi ; but after everything is in place, your imagination is the limit. It comes at a cost, as it's not cheap. The cheapest setup that I've done is around US$600 and the most expensive around USD$3,000. But there's a bunch of variables (HA, Performance, GitOps, Diversity of environments [9,10,11,12 / dev, prod, staging].

Regards,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:47 AM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
hello list!

Here at Numigi, all of our infrastructure is under DigitalOcean. While pricewise we are very happy with them, technologically we start to see some stoppers (mainly the FileSystem of DigitalOcean that prevent scaling).
A while ago, we tried AWS, but the price at the end of the month was WAY too high.

Would you have experience with Azure or Google Cloud to host your favorite ERP ?
I wonder how expensive it is to be in these clouds. I would target Azure, as it is getting better and better compared to Google cloud.

Let's chat
Jordi

--
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NUMIGI SOLUTIONS INC.
jordi.riera@numigi.com
(514) 317-7944

Longueuil, Québec, Canada
http://www.numigi.com/

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by Jordi Riera - 08:01 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

Camptocamp cloud platform modules look awesome - thanks!

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020, 4:02 AM Stéphane Bidoul, <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:

Hi Jordi,

Don't forget the session storage if you go that route.

A good starting point is here: https://github.com/camptocamp/odoo-cloud-platform

-sbi

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

--
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NUMIGI SOLUTIONS INC.
jordi.riera@numigi.com
(514) 317-7944

Longueuil, Québec, Canada
http://www.numigi.com/

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by Russell Briggs - 07:45 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Odoo instance in Azure/Google Cloud ?

Hi Jordi,

It will actually depend on what you'd like to do, and the level of automation (CI/CD, GitOps, NoOps, etc).

As an example, we've been using Google Cloud for the last 8 months with Kubernetes (GKE). The hardest part is the designing everything and adapting each piece of Odoo to work in a multi-tenant and distributed system (I've been working on this Docker environment to accomplish thi ; but after everything is in place, your imagination is the limit. It comes at a cost, as it's not cheap. The cheapest setup that I've done is around US$600 and the most expensive around USD$3,000. But there's a bunch of variables (HA, Performance, GitOps, Diversity of environments [9,10,11,12 / dev, prod, staging].

Regards,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:47 AM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:

hello list!

Here at Numigi, all of our infrastructure is under DigitalOcean. While pricewise we are very happy with them, technologically we start to see some stoppers (mainly the FileSystem of DigitalOcean that prevent scaling).
A while ago, we tried AWS, but the price at the end of the month was WAY too high.

Would you have experience with Azure or Google Cloud to host your favorite ERP ?
I wonder how expensive it is to be in these clouds. I would target Azure, as it is getting better and better compared to Google cloud.

Let's chat
Jordi

--
Jordi Riera - VP Technique
NUMIGI SOLUTIONS INC.
jordi.riera@numigi.com
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by Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> - 07:45 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

Hi Jordi,

I have that working for the full filestore on S3 (still v10), it works quite fine.

With Odoo server inside a EC2 the speed is great also.

https://github.com/diogocduarte/odoo_s3

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On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 2:37 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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by Diogo Duarte - 04:31 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

Hi Jordi,

There's also: https://github.com/it-projects-llc/misc-addons/tree/13.0/ir_attachment_s3

I'd like to do the same for Google buckets (in GCP).

Regards,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:02 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:

Hi Jordi,

Don't forget the session storage if you go that route.

A good starting point is here: https://github.com/camptocamp/odoo-cloud-platform

-sbi

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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by Gustavo Valverde <gustavo@iterativo.do> - 04:16 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

Thank you all!

odoo-cloud-platform seems a good answer!

Best,

Jordi

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 10:02, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> a écrit :

Hi Jordi,

Don't forget the session storage if you go that route.

A good starting point is here: https://github.com/camptocamp/odoo-cloud-platform

-sbi

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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by Jordi Riera - 04:16 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

Hi Jordi,

Don't forget the session storage if you go that route.

A good starting point is here: https://github.com/camptocamp/odoo-cloud-platform

-sbi

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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by Stéphane Bidoul - 04:01 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

Hi Jordi,

we use an S3-like storage in CH and Swift in FR. See

https://github.com/camptocamp/odoo-cloud-platform/tree/13.0/attachment_s3

https://github.com/camptocamp/odoo-cloud-platform/tree/13.0/attachment_swift

Cheers,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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by Simone Orsi - 04:01 - 31 Jan 2020

Odoo instance in Azure/Google Cloud ?

hello list!

Here at Numigi, all of our infrastructure is under DigitalOcean. While pricewise we are very happy with them, technologically we start to see some stoppers (mainly the FileSystem of DigitalOcean that prevent scaling).

A while ago, we tried AWS, but the price at the end of the month was WAY too high.

Would you have experience with Azure or Google Cloud to host your favorite ERP ?

I wonder how expensive it is to be in these clouds. I would target Azure, as it is getting better and better compared to Google cloud.

Let's chat

Jordi

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by Jordi Riera - 03:46 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Filestore in the cloud

There is already the option not? https://github.com/OCA/connector-cmis or other apps

Sergio Corato

Il giorno ven 31 gen 2020 alle ore 15:37 Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> ha scritto:

Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.
What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.
The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)
Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?
Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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by Sergio Corato - 03:46 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Enable Price List using code

Thank you Maxime,

I gave a try to your approach and while it works for some others config parameters, this one stays in the dark and its value doesn't change.

Something odd actually is I can access the price lists even if the boolean is not set. Seems to drive only views. It is good enough for my use case.

Thank you again Max,

Jordi

Le mar. 28 janv. 2020 à 16:37, Maxime Chambreuil <mchambreuil@opensourceintegrators.com> a écrit :

You can do something like this:
https://github.com/OCA/field-service/blob/12.0/fieldservice_sale/views/res_config_settings.xml

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:26 PM Jordi Riera <jordi.riera@numigi.com> wrote:
Hello List,

I struggle with a simple task. Well something that I thought would be simple.
I would like to enable the Price Lists using xml or python. So I can test my data that rely on.

I tried using get_values() in res.config.parameter, an XML record. Nothing stick.

Would you have advice on how to achieve my quest?

Thank you all,
Jordi

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by Jordi Riera - 03:41 - 31 Jan 2020

Filestore in the cloud

Hello everyone,

I was under my shower, and, as I often had a strange idea.

What about putting the filestore in a storage in the cloud ? Something like D3 Azure Storage etc.

The aim is to be able to scale up like crazy without to care about the location of the filestore (like volumes mounted on a single machine)

Do you know any module, article, or initiative that worked on that ?

Does it seem realistic to you ?

Let's chat !

Jordi

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NUMIGI SOLUTIONS INC.

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(514) 317-7944

Longueuil, Québec, Canada

http://www.numigi.com/

by Jordi Riera - 03:35 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: Localisation PSC - Croatia

The mailing list is ready: https://odoo-community.org/groups

Best regards,

-sbi

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:08 PM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:

Hello,

+1 to add Goran as PSC member for l10n-croatia.

I'll also create the mailing list.

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On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:16 AM Davor Bojkić - Bole <bole@dajmi5.com> wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to propose/introduce  new PSC member for Croatia 
localisation : Goran Kliska

Also, i would like to add Decodio Applications to same PSC.

As for Goran, he is author of several well known and used modules
( l10n_hr - in odoo main source, account_storno used in many countries... )
and i belive is one of top odoo developers in Croatia

Also we would like to start mailing list for Croatia localisation so we can
inform other potential members of our communit activity

Greets to all.
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Re: Localisation PSC - Croatia

Hello,

+1 to add Goran as PSC member for l10n-croatia.

I'll also create the mailing list.

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On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:16 AM Davor Bojkić - Bole <bole@dajmi5.com> wrote:

Hello all,
I would like to propose/introduce  new PSC member for Croatia 
localisation : Goran Kliska

Also, i would like to add Decodio Applications to same PSC.

As for Goran, he is author of several well known and used modules
( l10n_hr - in odoo main source, account_storno used in many countries... )
and i belive is one of top odoo developers in Croatia

Also we would like to start mailing list for Croatia localisation so we can
inform other potential members of our communit activity

Greets to all.
B



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by Stéphane Bidoul - 01:10 - 31 Jan 2020

Re: 2020 OCA Membership

Thanks for your assistance Sylvain.

Rebecca

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:06 AM Sylvain LE GAL <sylvain.legal@grap.coop> wrote:

Hi Pawel.

The certificate SSL seems valid. Ref : https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=https://odoo-community.org/page/Membership
The problem comes from your browser.

You could try to use another browser or try to fix your google chrome settings, regarding websites using let's encrypt.

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Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 à 12:37, Pawel Kostrzewa <pawel.kostrzew@gmail.com> a écrit :
ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

https://odoo-community.org/page/Membership

Unable to open this url in chrome

W dniu czw., 30.01.2020 o 01:57 Rebecca Gellatly <rebecca@o4sb.com> napisał(a):
Happy New Year to our OCA Contributors.

Our membership renewals have been sent out earlier in the month. If you think should have received one and didn't please get in touch.

If you haven't been a member before but would like to join us for 2020, please have a look here for more information and the link to purchasing a membership or respond on this list and I will get in touch with you.

As a non-profit organisation we rely on membership as one of our sources of revenue, this annual financial commitment helps to keep the wheels turning behind the scenes.

The new 2020 logos are up on the website too.

We look forward to a productive 2020 within the OCA Community.

Warm regards,
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by Rebecca Gellatly - 10:25 - 30 Jan 2020

Re: 2020 OCA Membership

Hi Pawel.

The certificate SSL seems valid. Ref : https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=https://odoo-community.org/page/Membership

The problem comes from your browser.

You could try to use another browser or try to fix your google chrome settings, regarding websites using let's encrypt.

thanks !

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Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 à 12:37, Pawel Kostrzewa <pawel.kostrzew@gmail.com> a écrit :

ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

https://odoo-community.org/page/Membership

Unable to open this url in chrome

W dniu czw., 30.01.2020 o 01:57 Rebecca Gellatly <rebecca@o4sb.com> napisał(a):
Happy New Year to our OCA Contributors.

Our membership renewals have been sent out earlier in the month. If you think should have received one and didn't please get in touch.

If you haven't been a member before but would like to join us for 2020, please have a look here for more information and the link to purchasing a membership or respond on this list and I will get in touch with you.

As a non-profit organisation we rely on membership as one of our sources of revenue, this annual financial commitment helps to keep the wheels turning behind the scenes.

The new 2020 logos are up on the website too.

We look forward to a productive 2020 within the OCA Community.

Warm regards,
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