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  • Increased Queue Job Failures – Need Advice
    Hello everyone,

    We use queue jobs in our Odoo 14 instance for various operations, and they have worked well so far. However, we've recently noticed an increasing number of failures with the following errors:

    1. psycopg2.errors.InFailedSqlTransaction: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block
    2. psycopg2.errors.SerializationFailure: could not serialize access due to concurrent update

    This issue may have started after updating the queue_job module to the latest version in branch 14.0, though we're not certain. No other changes have been made to our server configuration.

    Since we’re unsure how to resolve this, does anyone have experience with this module and the best server configuration for handling parallel job execution? The errors typically occur when multiple jobs run in parallel or when users work on the same models as the running jobs.

    Any insights or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks,

    Emanuel
    by "Emanuel Cino" <emanuel@compassion.ch> - 11:01 - 13 Feb 2025

    3 replies 3 replies

    • Re: Increased Queue Job Failures – Need Advice
      I am a big fan of

      except SerializationFailure as e:
          _logger.exception(e)
          raise RetryableJobError(e)

      Beware side effects (third party service calls, file system operations)!

      On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 7:03 AM Jacques-Etienne Baudoux <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
      Indeed, configure a smaller amount of workers for that specific channel. I think the max retry was not respected in the past, so that failing jobs were always restarted in case of SerializationFailure.

      Le jeu. 13 févr. 2025 à 11:47, Graeme Gellatly <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      It is a serialization failure. There isn't much (sensible) you can do but use a smaller queue (say 1 channel) for those jobs. If the row is locked or the table is locked, it is locked. If it really matters, and it must be parallel well you need to really dig into the methods, work out when locks are taken, when they are released and optimise the sh!t out of that portion that code. If you can't then you start to get in queuing rights, dropping ACID commitments within transaction etc.

      On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:02 PM Emanuel Cino <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
      Hello everyone,

      We use queue jobs in our Odoo 14 instance for various operations, and they have worked well so far. However, we've recently noticed an increasing number of failures with the following errors:

      1. psycopg2.errors.InFailedSqlTransaction: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block
      2. psycopg2.errors.SerializationFailure: could not serialize access due to concurrent update

      This issue may have started after updating the queue_job module to the latest version in branch 14.0, though we're not certain. No other changes have been made to our server configuration.

      Since we’re unsure how to resolve this, does anyone have experience with this module and the best server configuration for handling parallel job execution? The errors typically occur when multiple jobs run in parallel or when users work on the same models as the running jobs.

      Any insights or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

      Thanks,

      Emanuel

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      by Adam Heinz - 02:41 - 13 Feb 2025
    • Re: Increased Queue Job Failures – Need Advice
      Indeed, configure a smaller amount of workers for that specific channel. I think the max retry was not respected in the past, so that failing jobs were always restarted in case of SerializationFailure.

      Le jeu. 13 févr. 2025 à 11:47, Graeme Gellatly <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      It is a serialization failure. There isn't much (sensible) you can do but use a smaller queue (say 1 channel) for those jobs. If the row is locked or the table is locked, it is locked. If it really matters, and it must be parallel well you need to really dig into the methods, work out when locks are taken, when they are released and optimise the sh!t out of that portion that code. If you can't then you start to get in queuing rights, dropping ACID commitments within transaction etc.

      On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:02 PM Emanuel Cino <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
      Hello everyone,

      We use queue jobs in our Odoo 14 instance for various operations, and they have worked well so far. However, we've recently noticed an increasing number of failures with the following errors:

      1. psycopg2.errors.InFailedSqlTransaction: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block
      2. psycopg2.errors.SerializationFailure: could not serialize access due to concurrent update

      This issue may have started after updating the queue_job module to the latest version in branch 14.0, though we're not certain. No other changes have been made to our server configuration.

      Since we’re unsure how to resolve this, does anyone have experience with this module and the best server configuration for handling parallel job execution? The errors typically occur when multiple jobs run in parallel or when users work on the same models as the running jobs.

      Any insights or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

      Thanks,

      Emanuel

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      by Jacques-Etienne Baudoux - 02:01 - 13 Feb 2025
    • Re: Increased Queue Job Failures – Need Advice
      It is a serialization failure. There isn't much (sensible) you can do but use a smaller queue (say 1 channel) for those jobs. If the row is locked or the table is locked, it is locked. If it really matters, and it must be parallel well you need to really dig into the methods, work out when locks are taken, when they are released and optimise the sh!t out of that portion that code. If you can't then you start to get in queuing rights, dropping ACID commitments within transaction etc.

      On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:02 PM Emanuel Cino <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
      Hello everyone,

      We use queue jobs in our Odoo 14 instance for various operations, and they have worked well so far. However, we've recently noticed an increasing number of failures with the following errors:

      1. psycopg2.errors.InFailedSqlTransaction: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block
      2. psycopg2.errors.SerializationFailure: could not serialize access due to concurrent update

      This issue may have started after updating the queue_job module to the latest version in branch 14.0, though we're not certain. No other changes have been made to our server configuration.

      Since we’re unsure how to resolve this, does anyone have experience with this module and the best server configuration for handling parallel job execution? The errors typically occur when multiple jobs run in parallel or when users work on the same models as the running jobs.

      Any insights or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

      Thanks,

      Emanuel

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      by Graeme Gellatly - 11:46 - 13 Feb 2025
  • odoo para manufactura
    lo comparto para que otros lo puedan aprovechar, se pueda mejorar y darle continuidad.                 https://github.com/zurbaran/odoo_metal_manufacturing

    by "Antonio Jose Caballero Alcaraz" <zurbaran79@hotmail.com> - 07:16 - 12 Feb 2025
  • Experience with Odoo Project module for Agile/Scrum

    Dear OCA Community,

    I hope you're all doing well.

    I’m currently exploring the use of the Odoo Project module for managing projects with an Agile/Scrum methodology. Before diving deeper, I wanted to check if anyone in the community has experience using this module for Scrum-based project management.

    If you have implemented Scrum workflows with Odoo Project, I would love to hear about your experiences, best practices, and any challenges you faced. Additionally, if there are any community modules that enhance Scrum functionalities within Odoo, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations.

    Thanks in advance for your insights!

    Best regards,

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    Co-fondateur / Ingénieur logiciel
    +41 32 552 27 77
    info@jumpto.ch


    by Stéphane Eicher - 11:51 - 11 Feb 2025

    3 replies 3 replies

    • Re: Experience with Odoo Project module for Agile/Scrum
      Hi Anders,
      Any recommendation on the module is welcomed, if you find anything that can improve it, we can add it on the next upgrade.
      We hope to start with this in the near future.
      Thank you

      On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 1:57 PM Anders Wallenquist <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      I have been using the module project_scrum that is template for the module project agile for several years now.

      I think its working well, it have some ruff edges. There are always customers that have their own definition av Scrum but in most cases it works for both small to large projects.


      /Anders

      Den 2025-02-11 kl. 11:52, skrev Stephane Eicher:

      Dear OCA Community,

      I hope you're all doing well.

      I’m currently exploring the use of the Odoo Project module for managing projects with an Agile/Scrum methodology. Before diving deeper, I wanted to check if anyone in the community has experience using this module for Scrum-based project management.

      If you have implemented Scrum workflows with Odoo Project, I would love to hear about your experiences, best practices, and any challenges you faced. Additionally, if there are any community modules that enhance Scrum functionalities within Odoo, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations.

      Thanks in advance for your insights!

      Best regards,

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      Co-fondateur / Ingénieur logiciel
      +41 32 552 27 77
      info@jumpto.ch


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    • Re: Experience with Odoo Project module for Agile/Scrum

      I have been using the module project_scrum that is template for the module project agile for several years now.

      I think its working well, it have some ruff edges. There are always customers that have their own definition av Scrum but in most cases it works for both small to large projects.


      /Anders

      Den 2025-02-11 kl. 11:52, skrev Stephane Eicher:

      Dear OCA Community,

      I hope you're all doing well.

      I’m currently exploring the use of the Odoo Project module for managing projects with an Agile/Scrum methodology. Before diving deeper, I wanted to check if anyone in the community has experience using this module for Scrum-based project management.

      If you have implemented Scrum workflows with Odoo Project, I would love to hear about your experiences, best practices, and any challenges you faced. Additionally, if there are any community modules that enhance Scrum functionalities within Odoo, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations.

      Thanks in advance for your insights!

      Best regards,

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      Co-fondateur / Ingénieur logiciel
      +41 32 552 27 77
      info@jumpto.ch


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      by Anders Wallenquist - 02:56 - 11 Feb 2025

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    • Re: Experience with Odoo Project module for Agile/Scrum
      Hi,
      Our team has developed the Project Scrum : https://github.com/OCA/project/tree/16.0/project_scrum
      We are working on upgrading this to 17 now and we use it in some of our projects.
      If you have any questions on it, you can write to Ariel Barreiros from my team a.barreiros@binhex.cloud , he implemented this internally to manage our projects.
      Best,

      On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 10:53 AM Stephane Eicher <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Dear OCA Community,

      I hope you're all doing well.

      I’m currently exploring the use of the Odoo Project module for managing projects with an Agile/Scrum methodology. Before diving deeper, I wanted to check if anyone in the community has experience using this module for Scrum-based project management.

      If you have implemented Scrum workflows with Odoo Project, I would love to hear about your experiences, best practices, and any challenges you faced. Additionally, if there are any community modules that enhance Scrum functionalities within Odoo, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations.

      Thanks in advance for your insights!

      Best regards,

      --
      Eicher Stéphane
      Co-fondateur / Ingénieur logiciel
      +41 32 552 27 77
      info@jumpto.ch


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      by Jorge Elena Poblet - 01:31 - 11 Feb 2025
  • OCA Stock Logistics Repositories Guidelines
    Dear,

    As the amount of modules regarding logistics is continuously increasing, new additional repositories have been created for 18.0.

    I published this guideline with the list of repositories to help you to find out where to look for some modules and help you contribute to the right repository.


    In each v18 stock logistics repository README, you now have a mention and link to that guideline.

    You are migrating modules to 18.0? Check what is the right repository before opening your PR.

    Thanks to all contributors
    Regards
    Jacques-Etienne Baudoux
    gh: jbaudoux
    OCA Logistics PSC Representative
    by Jacques-Etienne Baudoux - 11:20 - 11 Feb 2025
  • Mass update of all repo templates
    Hi everyone,

    Over the past two weekends I have applied the latest OCA repo template, to branches 12.0 to 18.0 across all our ~200 addons repos.

    This was to anticipate the removal of action/cache@v1 that we used. See for more details: https://github.com/OCA/oca-addons-repo-template/pull/291

    PSC please look for pull requests with title "dotfiles update requires manual intervention". These are situations where the automatic update did not lead to a passing pre-commit check. They require investigation.

    Best regards,

    -Stéphane
    by Stéphane Bidoul - 07:56 - 10 Feb 2025

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  • OCA Modules for Odoo 17 and 18 not present in apps.odoo.com
    Hello,

    I’ve open the issue https://github.com/OCA/l10n-france/issues/577 about this.
    None of the module ported in 17.0 for l10n-france appears on apps.odoo.com
    That’s not the only missing module.
    Many module ported to odoo 18 are also missing. For example auth_saml is missing.

    I’m posting there because I have no idea who to contact about the issue and it seems to affect most OCA repositories.

    We’ve ported one of our AGPL module that uses l10n_fr_siret and this block its publicaton. I’d rather avoid having to fork and rename the module and all the modules that depends on them.

    Regards,

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    by "Vincent Hatakeyama" <vincent.hatakeyama@orbeet.io> - 05:00 - 10 Feb 2025

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  • recommendation to take meeting notes in 18.0 
    Hi!
In Odoo 15.0 we used the module Notes to take meeting notes and share it 
within the team. In 18.0 Notes got replaced by To-Do. Even though it is 
technically still possible to use it for meeting notes, it doesn't feel 
good mixing notes with to-dos in the same module. Do you have any 
recommendation where to store and share meeting notes?

Best regards
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    by Jan Suhr - 11:21 - 8 Feb 2025

    2 replies 2 replies

  • Buy in one UOM and sell many UOM 
    Hello:

My customer buys beverages (for example Whisky) in 0,70 cl bottles, and sale in 3 different measures, for example short, medium and large, with 3 different prices. Of course I have defined this 4 UOM in Odoo, bottles (0,7 L) and short (/20), medium (/12) and large (/7).

They want to control stock, as they know how many measures of each kind there is in a bottle. If I setup 3 different products with 3 different sale UOM I must make 3 different inputs in warehouse for each product. If I setup variants, I can have 3 different prices, but when I sell, Odoo reduce the stock by the sale UOM in the product, I can´t have a different UOM in each variant.

What can I do to have 3 different sale prices, only 1 buy product, and control stock at the same time?

Thanks in advance.

Enrique J. Sánchez Martínez.
Proinfo.
    by Enrique J. Sanchez Martinez - 08:46 - 7 Feb 2025

    3 replies 3 replies

    • Re: Buy in one UOM and sell many UOM
      Could one sell drinks that are defined by their ingredients and create them on demand with a wizard?



      On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 12:52 PM Jacques-Etienne Baudoux <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
      Hi

      Liters or centi/mili-liters are UOMs. Large, medium, short are product packaging where you define the quantity. Then configure to sell only by packaging.
      For the price, find a way to define a price per packaging, or do like Cyril is suggesting with several products.

      Regards
      J-E 


      Le ven. 7 févr. 2025, 08:47, Enrique Sanchez Martinez (Proinfo) <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      Hello:

My customer buys beverages (for example Whisky) in 0,70 cl bottles, and sale in 3 different measures, for example short, medium and large, with 3 different prices. Of course I have defined this 4 UOM in Odoo, bottles (0,7 L) and short (/20), medium (/12) and large (/7).

They want to control stock, as they know how many measures of each kind there is in a bottle. If I setup 3 different products with 3 different sale UOM I must make 3 different inputs in warehouse for each product. If I setup variants, I can have 3 different prices, but when I sell, Odoo reduce the stock by the sale UOM in the product, I can´t have a different UOM in each variant.

What can I do to have 3 different sale prices, only 1 buy product, and control stock at the same time?

Thanks in advance.

Enrique J. Sánchez Martínez.
Proinfo.

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      by joel.patrick - 03:01 - 9 Feb 2025
    • Re: Buy in one UOM and sell many UOM
      Hi

      Liters or centi/mili-liters are UOMs. Large, medium, short are product packaging where you define the quantity. Then configure to sell only by packaging.
      For the price, find a way to define a price per packaging, or do like Cyril is suggesting with several products.

      Regards
      J-E 


      Le ven. 7 févr. 2025, 08:47, Enrique Sanchez Martinez (Proinfo) <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      Hello:

My customer buys beverages (for example Whisky) in 0,70 cl bottles, and sale in 3 different measures, for example short, medium and large, with 3 different prices. Of course I have defined this 4 UOM in Odoo, bottles (0,7 L) and short (/20), medium (/12) and large (/7).

They want to control stock, as they know how many measures of each kind there is in a bottle. If I setup 3 different products with 3 different sale UOM I must make 3 different inputs in warehouse for each product. If I setup variants, I can have 3 different prices, but when I sell, Odoo reduce the stock by the sale UOM in the product, I can´t have a different UOM in each variant.

What can I do to have 3 different sale prices, only 1 buy product, and control stock at the same time?

Thanks in advance.

Enrique J. Sánchez Martínez.
Proinfo.

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      by Jacques-Etienne Baudoux - 06:51 - 7 Feb 2025
    • Re: Buy in one UOM and sell many UOM
      Hello

      This can be done in Standard Odoo CE by using BOM (kit type).

      Then about UOM, you can have a 'bottle of 70cl' (type volume is better for end user because he might think in 'cl') and you can use units UOM for your small/medium/large products.
      The BOM makes the job afterwards

      Best regards

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      Le jeu. 6 févr. 2025, 21:47, Enrique Sanchez Martinez (Proinfo) <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      Hello:

My customer buys beverages (for example Whisky) in 0,70 cl bottles, and sale in 3 different measures, for example short, medium and large, with 3 different prices. Of course I have defined this 4 UOM in Odoo, bottles (0,7 L) and short (/20), medium (/12) and large (/7).

They want to control stock, as they know how many measures of each kind there is in a bottle. If I setup 3 different products with 3 different sale UOM I must make 3 different inputs in warehouse for each product. If I setup variants, I can have 3 different prices, but when I sell, Odoo reduce the stock by the sale UOM in the product, I can´t have a different UOM in each variant.

What can I do to have 3 different sale prices, only 1 buy product, and control stock at the same time?

Thanks in advance.

Enrique J. Sánchez Martínez.
Proinfo.

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      by Cyril VINH-TUNG - 05:41 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Survey XLSX module cannot be found on OCA shop page.
    Here is a brief report:

    When trying to open the Survey XLSX module on the OCA shop page, the following error occurs:
    "403: Forbidden
    The page you were looking for could not be authorized.
    Error message:
    Due to security restrictions, you are not allowed to access 'Product Template' (product.template) records.
    Contact your administrator to request access if necessary."

    However, the module can be viewed on the Odoo app store:
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/16.0/survey_xlsx

    It is also available on GitHub:
    https://github.com/OCA/survey

    Is there any specific reason why it is not displayed on the OCA shop page?


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    by Tatsuki Kanda - 11:55 - 6 Feb 2025

    4 replies 4 replies

  • Odoo.sh Development Inquiry
    Dea Odoo Community,
    Will the official docker image https://github.com/odoo/docker-official-images support a neutral database import that was exported from Odoo.sh. If so (if not) what steps can I take to adopt my local environment to support a database export from Odoo.sh. 
    Thank you in advance.
    Sincerely,
    Phil
    by Philip Parzygnat - 11:55 - 6 Feb 2025

    1 replies 1 replies

    • Re: Odoo.sh Development Inquiry 
      This is not the right place to ask that question - you should open a 
support ticket with Odoo SA.

On 2/6/25 11:58, Philip Parzygnat wrote:

> Dea Odoo Community,

> Will the official docker image 

> https://github.com/odoo/docker-official-images support a neutral 

> database import that was exported from Odoo.sh. If so (if not) what 

> steps can I take to adopt my local environment to support a database 

> export from Odoo.sh.

> Thank you in advance.

> Sincerely,

> Phil

>

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      by Tom Blauwendraat - 12:16 - 6 Feb 2025
  • New logo for the OCA modules: vote for your favorite option (Deadline 5th Feb at 9am CET)
    Hello,

    Share your opinion by voting in Github here:

    The choice will follow the simple majority.

    Voting Deadline: Wednesday 5th February at 9am Central Europe Time.

    Have a beautiful week wherever you are!

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    by Denis Roussel - 11:51 - 6 Feb 2025

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    by Virginie Dewulf - 11:50 - 6 Feb 2025

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  • [37226] Imap Sent Mails 
    Dear OCA,

talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
/ resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module

https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails

I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
am just not aware of ?

Any thoughts, ideas on that

Best and thanks for any reply upfront

Frederik


-- 
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
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Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    by Frederik Kramer - 11:45 - 6 Feb 2025

    9 replies 9 replies

    • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

      Hi Michael,

      thank you. That is a pretty good summary of the technical options to solve the "sent mail / IMAP" problem. I consider the "Odoo Module" option 3) the best because. Basically that is also what Sergio proposed in his old 8.0 PR just some minutes ago. However, all in all this is just one of the problems using Odoo for E-Mail. 

      Best and have a nice weekend

      Frederik

      Am 07.02.25 um 10:37 schrieb Michel Stroom:
      Hi Frederik,

      Indeed, Odoo’s mail sending mechanism does not support IMAP's "Append" command, which is typically used to store outgoing messages in an IMAP folder.
      Odoo does not store sent emails in an IMAP folder by default because it acts as an SMTP sender, not a full-fledged email client. 

      Odoo's Sent Emails Exist Only in the technical Mail Queue (Backend):
      • Odoo logs sent emails in its internal database (mail.mail model).
      • These emails can be viewed within Odoo under Messaging > Emails or inside records like Sales Orders, Invoices, and Support Tickets.
      • However, these emails are not stored in an external IMAP mail folder.

      No Configurable IMAP Folder for Sent Emails:

      • Traditional email clients (e.g., Thunderbird, Outlook) allow users to specify an IMAP folder where sent emails should be saved.
      • Odoo does not provide an option to configure an external IMAP folder for storing sent messages.

      WORKAROUNDs
      Since Odoo does not natively store sent mail in IMAP, we can consider these alternatives:

      1. Use an SMTP Server That Automatically Copies Sent Mail to IMAP ("Sent" Folder)

        • Some SMTP providers (e.g., Gmail, Office 365) automatically store a copy of outgoing emails in the "Sent" folder when sending via SMTP.
        • If using Postfix, you can configure it to BCC outgoing emails to an IMAP mailbox.

        Postfix Example (Adding BCC for Sent Emails):
        sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf
        Add:  sender_bcc_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/bcc_map

        Create the BCC mapping file: 
        sudo nano /etc/postfix/bcc_map
        Add: @yourdomain.com archive@yourdomain.com

        Apply changes:
        sudo postmap /etc/postfix/bcc_map
        sudo systemctl restart postfix

      2. Use Odoo's "Aliases" Feature to Auto-Forward Sent Emails to an IMAP Folder

        • You can create an email alias in Odoo to automatically forward sent emails to a dedicated IMAP folder.
        • This workaround requires configuring mail forwarding on the SMTP server.

      3. Custom Odoo Module to Append Emails to IMAP "Sent" Folder

        • A custom Odoo module could be developed to use IMAP's APPEND command to store outgoing messages in a specified folder.


      Test the above workarounds and share the knowledge.

      Let me know if you, or somebody else, like to receive the workaround for Microsoft Exchange example.



      Best regards,


      Michel Stroom
      -- 

      Office Everywhere
      Business Partner Odoo

      t: +31 6 53360677
      e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
      w: Office-Everywhere.com

      LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom



      On 6 Feb 2025, at 11:53, Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Dear OCA,

talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
/ resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module

https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails

I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
am just not aware of ?

Any thoughts, ideas on that

Best and thanks for any reply upfront

Frederik


-- 
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247

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      -- 
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Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
      by Frederik Kramer - 10:46 - 7 Feb 2025
    • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails
      Hi Frederik,

      Indeed, Odoo’s mail sending mechanism does not support IMAP's "Append" command, which is typically used to store outgoing messages in an IMAP folder.
      Odoo does not store sent emails in an IMAP folder by default because it acts as an SMTP sender, not a full-fledged email client. 

      Odoo's Sent Emails Exist Only in the technical Mail Queue (Backend):
      • Odoo logs sent emails in its internal database (mail.mail model).
      • These emails can be viewed within Odoo under Messaging > Emails or inside records like Sales Orders, Invoices, and Support Tickets.
      • However, these emails are not stored in an external IMAP mail folder.

      No Configurable IMAP Folder for Sent Emails:

      • Traditional email clients (e.g., Thunderbird, Outlook) allow users to specify an IMAP folder where sent emails should be saved.
      • Odoo does not provide an option to configure an external IMAP folder for storing sent messages.

      WORKAROUNDs
      Since Odoo does not natively store sent mail in IMAP, we can consider these alternatives:

      1. Use an SMTP Server That Automatically Copies Sent Mail to IMAP ("Sent" Folder)

        • Some SMTP providers (e.g., Gmail, Office 365) automatically store a copy of outgoing emails in the "Sent" folder when sending via SMTP.
        • If using Postfix, you can configure it to BCC outgoing emails to an IMAP mailbox.

        Postfix Example (Adding BCC for Sent Emails):
        sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf
        Add:  sender_bcc_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/bcc_map

        Create the BCC mapping file: 
        sudo nano /etc/postfix/bcc_map
        Add: @yourdomain.com archive@yourdomain.com

        Apply changes:
        sudo postmap /etc/postfix/bcc_map
        sudo systemctl restart postfix

      2. Use Odoo's "Aliases" Feature to Auto-Forward Sent Emails to an IMAP Folder

        • You can create an email alias in Odoo to automatically forward sent emails to a dedicated IMAP folder.
        • This workaround requires configuring mail forwarding on the SMTP server.

      3. Custom Odoo Module to Append Emails to IMAP "Sent" Folder

        • A custom Odoo module could be developed to use IMAP's APPEND command to store outgoing messages in a specified folder.


      Test the above workarounds and share the knowledge.

      Let me know if you, or somebody else, like to receive the workaround for Microsoft Exchange example.



      Best regards,


      Michel Stroom
      -- 

      Office Everywhere
      Business Partner Odoo

      t: +31 6 53360677
      e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
      w: Office-Everywhere.com

      LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom



      On 6 Feb 2025, at 11:53, Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Dear OCA,

talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
/ resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module

https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails

I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
am just not aware of ?

Any thoughts, ideas on that

Best and thanks for any reply upfront

Frederik


-- 
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247

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      by Michel Stroom - 10:36 - 7 Feb 2025
    • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

      Hi Frederik,

      ok, I better understand now. Just recently I sent an email campaign and noticed that it triggered responses (direct and indirect) to all sorts of models. So that nothing was missed, I went to technical settings > Discuss > Messages where I grouped by model and author, and browsed. 

      During this process, I found a couple of missed important messages from a month ago. This seems to better relate to your point.

      It was a clumsy experience and could quite easily be served with a better view.

      Best wishes,

      Stuart.


      On 07/02/2025 10:03, Frederik Kramer wrote:

      Hi Stuart,

      well, i think the way that you are proposing (using a subdomain) is something that is quite common (and is or at least was part of the formal documentation of Odoo even). However, still the "experience" using Mail to me is a little ackward (as of today). What i kind of dislike, is that even if you are able to "link" every mail to the chatter of practically every object in Odoo you don't really have a streamline view anywhere that allows you to see what mail came in or was sent out by or to a certain contact. Apart from that, i like to use inline quote in my mail threads and that is also something that just doesn't work very well even if you take the appropopriate OCA module. Of course copying and piping thinks with low level infrastructure means inside Linux / the Mailstack is an option but that way it becomes a pretty fragile architecture after all.

      All in all i always wonder if i am the only Person in the Odoo Community that isn't especially thrilled by the way Odoo handles E-Mail or do people just don't talk too much about it ?

      Thanks a lot for your helpful comments, anyway

      Cheers Frederik

      Am 07.02.25 um 09:47 schrieb Stuart J Mackintosh:

      Dear Frederik,

      I find the easiest way to set up email for Odoo is to create a subdomain for Odoo emails using a catch-all or aliases, separate from the chat emails of the people using mail clients.

      However if you want to have messages stored in an IMAP store, and depending on your familiarity with Linux, you could use various tools to forward or duplicate copies at transmission time. Such messages could then be delivered to IMAP boxes through pipemail, procmail, exim etc - a mail client can subscribe to the box and access the messages.

      The recipe would vary depending on exactly what you wanted to achieve, and bear in mind that outbound and inbound have separate life-cycles.

      Best wishes,

      Stuart.



      On 06/02/2025 11:53, Frederik Kramer wrote:
      Dear OCA,

talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
/ resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module

https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails

I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
am just not aware of ?

Any thoughts, ideas on that

Best and thanks for any reply upfront

Frederik


-- 
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247

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      Open Digital Consulting Co

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      UK: +44 20 36 27 90 40

      FR: +33 1 89 48 00 40

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Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247

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      FR: +33 1 89 48 00 40

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      by Stuart J Mackintosh - 10:16 - 7 Feb 2025

      1 attachments 1 attachments

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    • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails
      A very old PR :)
      Sergio Corato


      Il giorno ven 7 feb 2025 alle ore 09:47 Stuart J Mackintosh <notifications@odoo-community.org> ha scritto:

      Dear Frederik,

      I find the easiest way to set up email for Odoo is to create a subdomain for Odoo emails using a catch-all or aliases, separate from the chat emails of the people using mail clients.

      However if you want to have messages stored in an IMAP store, and depending on your familiarity with Linux, you could use various tools to forward or duplicate copies at transmission time. Such messages could then be delivered to IMAP boxes through pipemail, procmail, exim etc - a mail client can subscribe to the box and access the messages.

      The recipe would vary depending on exactly what you wanted to achieve, and bear in mind that outbound and inbound have separate life-cycles.

      Best wishes,

      Stuart.



      On 06/02/2025 11:53, Frederik Kramer wrote:
      Dear OCA,

talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
/ resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module

https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails

I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
am just not aware of ?

Any thoughts, ideas on that

Best and thanks for any reply upfront

Frederik



-- 
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
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      FR: +33 1 89 48 00 40

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      by Sergio Corato - 10:06 - 7 Feb 2025
    • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

      Hi Stuart,

      well, i think the way that you are proposing (using a subdomain) is something that is quite common (and is or at least was part of the formal documentation of Odoo even). However, still the "experience" using Mail to me is a little ackward (as of today). What i kind of dislike, is that even if you are able to "link" every mail to the chatter of practically every object in Odoo you don't really have a streamline view anywhere that allows you to see what mail came in or was sent out by or to a certain contact. Apart from that, i like to use inline quote in my mail threads and that is also something that just doesn't work very well even if you take the appropopriate OCA module. Of course copying and piping thinks with low level infrastructure means inside Linux / the Mailstack is an option but that way it becomes a pretty fragile architecture after all.

      All in all i always wonder if i am the only Person in the Odoo Community that isn't especially thrilled by the way Odoo handles E-Mail or do people just don't talk too much about it ?

      Thanks a lot for your helpful comments, anyway

      Cheers Frederik

      Am 07.02.25 um 09:47 schrieb Stuart J Mackintosh:

      Dear Frederik,

      I find the easiest way to set up email for Odoo is to create a subdomain for Odoo emails using a catch-all or aliases, separate from the chat emails of the people using mail clients.

      However if you want to have messages stored in an IMAP store, and depending on your familiarity with Linux, you could use various tools to forward or duplicate copies at transmission time. Such messages could then be delivered to IMAP boxes through pipemail, procmail, exim etc - a mail client can subscribe to the box and access the messages.

      The recipe would vary depending on exactly what you wanted to achieve, and bear in mind that outbound and inbound have separate life-cycles.

      Best wishes,

      Stuart.



      On 06/02/2025 11:53, Frederik Kramer wrote:
      Dear OCA,

talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
/ resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module

https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails

I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
am just not aware of ?

Any thoughts, ideas on that

Best and thanks for any reply upfront

Frederik


-- 
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer

initOS GmbH
Innungsstraße 7
21244 Buchholz i.d.N.

Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819

Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Internet: www.initos.com

Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247

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      Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
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  • Connecting weight scales to Odoo
    Hello,

    I'm looking into connecting weight scales to Odoo, wither for warehouse operations or for quality controls.
    For example, the Mettler-Toledo brand.

    I wonder if we have something under the OCA for this?
    Would PyWebDriver (https://github.com/pywebdriver/pywebdriver) be helpful here?

    Thank you for sharing!

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    by Daniel Reis - 09:16 - 30 Jan 2025

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    • Re: Connecting weight scales to Odoo

      Hi Tom,

      indeed that is something that is a somewhat ridiclous result of European Regulation. I do agree though:

      As long as you break Media, in the sence of

      analog -> digital -> paper <-> scan -> digital

      the weighing would no longer be conceived "integrated" and the entire thing would be legally compilant.

      From a technical standpoint this is odd because

      1.) obviously the API of a scale could easily be made "read only", controlled by the internal architecture and thererfore practically immutable

      2.) printing something on paper (only to scan it immediatly after) is a waste of natural resources 

      But lawyer, politicans and other "high profile" staff needs something to work on and live from as well ;-)

      Cheers Frederik

      Am 06.02.25 um 11:43 schrieb Tom Blauwendraat:
      Note that there is also the option to use self-service weighing which 
prints out a barcode sticker, which can then be scanned at the checkout 
using standard Odoo barcode nomenclature.

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      by Frederik Kramer - 12:22 - 6 Feb 2025
    • Re: Connecting weight scales to Odoo 
      Note that there is also the option to use self-service weighing which 
prints out a barcode sticker, which can then be scanned at the checkout 
using standard Odoo barcode nomenclature.
      by Tom Blauwendraat - 11:43 - 6 Feb 2025
    • Re: Connecting weight scales to Odoo
      Yes, our system doesn't require middle things. Just direct websocket connection between browser and weighing scale.

      We also have a talk about this in Jornadas Odoo, although in Spanish (I know Daniel won't have problem with that):


      Regards.
      by Pedro M. Baeza - 12:46 - 30 Jan 2025
    • Re: Connecting weight scales to Odoo

      Hello,

      It's not a Black Box solution. We have changed it to support Epelsa Scales. The code is open, you can see the addons hw_*. If you login to the raspberry pi (it's a default raspbian) you can see that is only a Odoo that launch the hw_* addons. And can be used in a Community Versión, but only in POS. You can use it in Manufacturing.

      Greetings

      El 30/1/25 a las 10:17, Daniel Reis escribió:
      Thank you Ignacio and Frederick.

      This is an EE customer and I'm aware that the Odoo IoT box supports Mettler-Toledo scales.
      But it is kind of a black box solution.

      The OCA and open source has spoiled me, and I feel uncomfortable with anything I can't peek inside and hack in case of need :-)
      I was hoping PyWebDriver could provide a drop in replacement for this kind of use case.
      I know it already does for the POS (I used it for an EE customer, because the RaspberryPy did not do well in their work conditions).

      /Daniel

      On 30/01/2025 08:42, Ignacio (Acysos S.L.) wrote:

      Hello,

      The mettler Toledo can be connected, is in the core o Odoo. You only has to use a iotbox. Some function of iotbox are enterprise, but connect a scale to POS is open source. You can download the raspberry pi image in the Odoo website: https://nightly.odoo.com/master/iotbox/

      Greetings,
      Ignacio
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      El 30/1/25 a las 9:17, Daniel Reis escribió:
      Hello,

      I'm looking into connecting weight scales to Odoo, wither for warehouse operations or for quality controls.
      For example, the Mettler-Toledo brand.

      I wonder if we have something under the OCA for this?
      Would PyWebDriver (https://github.com/pywebdriver/pywebdriver) be helpful here?

      Thank you for sharing!

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      by Ignacio Ibeas - 12:41 - 30 Jan 2025
    • Re: Connecting weight scales to Odoo 
      Well also a solution to do it via Websockets and w/o pywebdriver even. 
So you don't necessarily need a prepared Raspi but just an ordinary 
Linux machine. We did something similar back in the days with a home 
made weighing scale (built from some cheap China hardaware) even. Was 
only for carrier clearance, but worked pretty well on several parallel 
instances. So definitely also worth to look at

Best Frederik

Am 30.01.25 um 12:28 schrieb Pedro M. Baeza:

> Check our developments in https://github.com/OCA/stock-weighing

>

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  • Aletrnative to mrp_workorder (MRP II) Shop Floor application?

    Hello,


    is there any alternative to Enterprise's mrp_workorder (MRP II) Shop Floor application? I couldn't find any. There is a set of shopfloor modules in WMS repo but these seem to server warehouse scenarios, not manufacturing. Any advice is greatly welcome.


    Best regards


        Radovan Skolnik

    by Radovan Skolnik - 11:06 - 27 Jan 2025

    2 replies 2 replies

    • Re: Aletrnative to mrp_workorder (MRP II) Shop Floor application?
      What is missing for your shop floor requirements?

      We had issues with several of the basic assumptions for manufacturing, but these were easy to resolve (in part with a custom module that addressed the issues with other base modules).

      JP


      by joel.patrick - 01:46 - 8 Feb 2025
    • RE: Aletrnative to mrp_workorder (MRP II) Shop Floor application?

      Hi Radovan

       

      My prospect is also looking for a Shop Floor alternative in Community Edition. The market seems to have a demand for it.

       

      In my case, this prospect (a Finnish branch of a multinational corporation) has only seven users. They would have a two-tier ERP strategy: avoid expanding SAP and replace a legacy application with the Odoo manufacturing and shop floor apps. The corporation might implement the solution in other countries if it is successful.

       

      Only for seven users (who would, after all, use only the manufacturing app) does the Enterprise license cost over 3000 EUR per year. Thus, funding for developing an OCA Shop Floor could be found by sharing the development cost with customers who have similar needs.

       

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      Hello,

       

      is there any alternative to Enterprise's mrp_workorder (MRP II) Shop Floor application? I couldn't find any. There is a set of shopfloor modules in WMS repo but these seem to server warehouse scenarios, not manufacturing. Any advice is greatly welcome.

       

      Best regards

       

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      by Jussi Lehto - 12:06 - 8 Feb 2025
  • OCA pip module loaded by external organization on pypi.org
    Hi all,
    I am writing this mail even if I've already written it in OCA Discord, because I think this is a security issue, I apologize whether it's not.

    I found installed in an instance a pip from pypi.org of an OCA module upgraded there from a company outside OCA: https://pypi.org/project/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/14.0.1.2.0/

    They pushed the module changed and with a different logo (almost this change made me notice it) and a link to their website. It's a bad thing that someone can put a pip there with a random code.

    I'll stop taking this pip from pypi.org or I'll take the OCA version, but what about other instances installed in this way? Or is it a deprecated way of deployment?

    In tests done on github is used the "non-OCA" version too:

    Requirement already satisfied: odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating in /opt/odoo-venv/src/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/setup/stock_move_backdating (from -r test-requirements.txt (line 6)) (14.0.1.0.2.dev2)

    while the current OCA version is  "version": "14.0.1.0.1",

    Sergio Corato
    by Sergio Corato - 05:36 - 24 Jan 2025

    3 replies 3 replies

    • Re: OCA pip module loaded by external organization on pypi.org
      Hi Stéphane,
      thanks very much for the clarification.
      I've managed to install the OCA module version as we use a private distributor of pip packages: this is used by forcing the 14.0.1.0.1 version.
      Warmest regards,
      Sergio Corato


      Il giorno sab 25 gen 2025 alle ore 12:06 Stéphane Bidoul <notifications@odoo-community.org> ha scritto:
      Hi Sergio,

      Thanks for reporting this.

      In this case, what happened is that odoo12-addon-stock_move_backdating is owned by OCA, but another company published odoo14-addon-stock_move_backdating before it was migrated in OCA.
      When later merged in OCA, the publishing to PyPI failed because OCA did not own the package.
      We were alerted by the monitoring and attempted to contact that company to resolve the issue, without success so far.

      From PyPI perspective, there is nothing wrong with that because odoo12-addon-stock_move_backdating and odoo14-addon-stock_move_backdating are two different packages.
      Since Odoo 15, the Odoo version is not part of the package name, so this kind of confusion cannot happen anymore.

      It is nevertheless important to keep in mind that anyone can publish new packages to PyPI, including Odoo addons, and when installing from PyPI (as from anywhere on the internet) one must be careful to assert the trust one places in the package owners.

      We are currently aware of 2 situations where an addon is merged in OCA and not owned by OCA on PyPI: odoo14-addon-stock_move_backdating and odoo14-addon-pos_sale_order_load.

      Additionally, since Nov 2024, to avoid merging in OCA when the name is not available on PyPI, the bot checks that the name is available before accepting the merge.

      In OCA CI, there is a mechanism in place to test only with OCA addons.

      Best regards,

      -Stéphane


      On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 6:37 PM Pierre Verkest <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
      Hi,

      I suppose the https://pypi.org/user/ssi-bot/ user own the pypi project before OCA bot try to create it so it's certainly a best practice to first get OCA package from the OCA wheelhouse https://wheelhouse.odoo-community.org/

      regards,

      Le ven. 24 janv. 2025 à 17:38, Sergio Corato <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      Hi all,
      I am writing this mail even if I've already written it in OCA Discord, because I think this is a security issue, I apologize whether it's not.

      I found installed in an instance a pip from pypi.org of an OCA module upgraded there from a company outside OCA: https://pypi.org/project/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/14.0.1.2.0/

      They pushed the module changed and with a different logo (almost this change made me notice it) and a link to their website. It's a bad thing that someone can put a pip there with a random code.

      I'll stop taking this pip from pypi.org or I'll take the OCA version, but what about other instances installed in this way? Or is it a deprecated way of deployment?

      In tests done on github is used the "non-OCA" version too:

      Requirement already satisfied: odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating in /opt/odoo-venv/src/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/setup/stock_move_backdating (from -r test-requirements.txt (line 6)) (14.0.1.0.2.dev2)

      while the current OCA version is  "version": "14.0.1.0.1",

      Sergio Corato

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      by Sergio Corato - 03:51 - 25 Jan 2025
    • Re: OCA pip module loaded by external organization on pypi.org
      Hi Sergio,

      Thanks for reporting this.

      In this case, what happened is that odoo12-addon-stock_move_backdating is owned by OCA, but another company published odoo14-addon-stock_move_backdating before it was migrated in OCA.
      When later merged in OCA, the publishing to PyPI failed because OCA did not own the package.
      We were alerted by the monitoring and attempted to contact that company to resolve the issue, without success so far.

      From PyPI perspective, there is nothing wrong with that because odoo12-addon-stock_move_backdating and odoo14-addon-stock_move_backdating are two different packages.
      Since Odoo 15, the Odoo version is not part of the package name, so this kind of confusion cannot happen anymore.

      It is nevertheless important to keep in mind that anyone can publish new packages to PyPI, including Odoo addons, and when installing from PyPI (as from anywhere on the internet) one must be careful to assert the trust one places in the package owners.

      We are currently aware of 2 situations where an addon is merged in OCA and not owned by OCA on PyPI: odoo14-addon-stock_move_backdating and odoo14-addon-pos_sale_order_load.

      Additionally, since Nov 2024, to avoid merging in OCA when the name is not available on PyPI, the bot checks that the name is available before accepting the merge.

      In OCA CI, there is a mechanism in place to test only with OCA addons.

      Best regards,

      -Stéphane


      On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 6:37 PM Pierre Verkest <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
      Hi,

      I suppose the https://pypi.org/user/ssi-bot/ user own the pypi project before OCA bot try to create it so it's certainly a best practice to first get OCA package from the OCA wheelhouse https://wheelhouse.odoo-community.org/

      regards,

      Le ven. 24 janv. 2025 à 17:38, Sergio Corato <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      Hi all,
      I am writing this mail even if I've already written it in OCA Discord, because I think this is a security issue, I apologize whether it's not.

      I found installed in an instance a pip from pypi.org of an OCA module upgraded there from a company outside OCA: https://pypi.org/project/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/14.0.1.2.0/

      They pushed the module changed and with a different logo (almost this change made me notice it) and a link to their website. It's a bad thing that someone can put a pip there with a random code.

      I'll stop taking this pip from pypi.org or I'll take the OCA version, but what about other instances installed in this way? Or is it a deprecated way of deployment?

      In tests done on github is used the "non-OCA" version too:

      Requirement already satisfied: odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating in /opt/odoo-venv/src/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/setup/stock_move_backdating (from -r test-requirements.txt (line 6)) (14.0.1.0.2.dev2)

      while the current OCA version is  "version": "14.0.1.0.1",

      Sergio Corato

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      by Stéphane Bidoul - 11:57 - 25 Jan 2025
    • Re: OCA pip module loaded by external organization on pypi.org
      Hi,

      I suppose the https://pypi.org/user/ssi-bot/ user own the pypi project before OCA bot try to create it so it's certainly a best practice to first get OCA package from the OCA wheelhouse https://wheelhouse.odoo-community.org/

      regards,

      Le ven. 24 janv. 2025 à 17:38, Sergio Corato <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
      Hi all,
      I am writing this mail even if I've already written it in OCA Discord, because I think this is a security issue, I apologize whether it's not.

      I found installed in an instance a pip from pypi.org of an OCA module upgraded there from a company outside OCA: https://pypi.org/project/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/14.0.1.2.0/

      They pushed the module changed and with a different logo (almost this change made me notice it) and a link to their website. It's a bad thing that someone can put a pip there with a random code.

      I'll stop taking this pip from pypi.org or I'll take the OCA version, but what about other instances installed in this way? Or is it a deprecated way of deployment?

      In tests done on github is used the "non-OCA" version too:

      Requirement already satisfied: odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating in /opt/odoo-venv/src/odoo14-addon-stock-move-backdating/setup/stock_move_backdating (from -r test-requirements.txt (line 6)) (14.0.1.0.2.dev2)

      while the current OCA version is  "version": "14.0.1.0.1",

      Sergio Corato

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      by Pierre Verkest - 06:36 - 24 Jan 2025
  • Request for Guidance on Migrating from POS UI API v15 to v16

    I am currently working on migrating a community addon from Odoo v15 to v16 and have encountered a challenge related to the updated POS API.

    In v15, the addon interacts with the POS UI and defines custom models using Backbone.Model.extend, as shown here:

    var MyCustomModel = Backbone.Model.extend({
    // Custom model logic
});

    The goal is to create a new model at the same logic level as Order and Orderline, not to extend those models. While there are plenty of examples showing how to extend Order and Orderline, I have not found clear guidance on defining entirely new models at this level under the v16 API.

    In addition, models like Order and Orderline in v15 extended PosModel, which was accessible. However, in v16, PosModel has been made private, and PosGlobalState doesn’t seem to provide the functionality needed for this type of model creation.

    Could anyone provide guidance on:

    1. How to create a new model at the same logic level as Order and Orderline in the v16 POS API?
    2. Why was PosModel made private in v16, and is there an alternative for extending POS-related functionality?
    3. Are there updated patterns or best practices in v16 for integrating custom models into the POS framework?

    I want to ensure that this approach aligns with the design philosophy of the v16 API and avoids anti-patterns. Your advice, examples, or references to relevant documentation would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you for your help!

    Best regards,

    \Rolando

    by Ing. Rolando Pérez Rebollo - 10:51 - 23 Jan 2025
  • Solicitud para colaborar con Odoo

    Estimado equipo de Odoo,

    Quiero expresar mi interés en colaborar con ustedes y contribuir al desarrollo de su plataforma. Quedo a disposición para conversar sobre cómo puedo aportar al equipo.

    Saludos cordiales

    by Ing. Yudith Recio Milanés - 01:10 - 23 Jan 2025

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  • Re: BPM On Odoo

    Hi Michel,

     

    Thanks for your support, we are working on setting up few vertical but our tool can be used to implement any new processes example employee onboarding, leave approval, multi department approval etc that you or your customer may need to manage your business.

     

     

     

    Regards,

    Manish Mannan

     

    From: Michel Stroom <notifications@odoo-community.org>
    Date: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 at 2:37 AM
    To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
    Subject: Re: BPM On Odoo

    Great progress, Manish!

    You already have my full support and my contact details.

    As we’ve discussed, focus on specific industries where workflows play a crucial role. 
    Keep in mind that workflow solutions are typically more suited to larger enterprises rather than smaller ones.

    I’m looking forward to collaborating with you and seeing how we, as the OCA, can contribute to creating the BPM.
    Stay in touch, and please keep us — and me — updated.

     

    Warmest regards, 

     

     

    Michel Stroom

    -- 

    Office Everywhere
    Business Partner Odoo

    t: +31 6 53360677
    e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
    w: Office-Everywhere.com

    LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom

     



    On 21 Jan 2025, at 18:03, Manish Mannan (Manish) <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

     

    Hello Community,

    We are in the process of developing a BPM solution on top of Odoo. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated.

    Looking forward to hearing your ideas!

     

    Regards,

     

    Manish Mannan

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    by Manish Mannan - 07:01 - 22 Jan 2025
  • BPM On Odoo

    Hello Community,

    We are in the process of developing a BPM solution on top of Odoo. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated.

    Looking forward to hearing your ideas!

     

    Regards,

    Manish Mannan

    by Manish Mannan - 06:01 - 21 Jan 2025

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    • Re: BPM On Odoo

      Hello Graeme,

       

      We've already made significant progress, which you might want to explore to understand how we're managing everything within our BPM using Odoo

       

      Regards,

      Manish Mannan

       

      From: Graeme Gellatly <notifications@odoo-community.org>
      Date: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 at 3:52 AM
      To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
      Subject: Re: BPM On Odoo

      This seems a variation that comes up every year or so. This should be your starting point, and probably ending point IMO. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/e/2PACX-1vR9VGsSQUnITdnQq5KRiWnY7o-yERCB8YfnqxzhFW5tFcJ8AzMmIQ1CpLTdEgy5Sz9nx-yQlC0BhyGR/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000&slide=id.p 

       

      On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 10:07 AM Michel Stroom <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Great progress, Manish!

      You already have my full support and my contact details.

      As we’ve discussed, focus on specific industries where workflows play a crucial role. 
      Keep in mind that workflow solutions are typically more suited to larger enterprises rather than smaller ones.

      I’m looking forward to collaborating with you and seeing how we, as the OCA, can contribute to creating the BPM.
      Stay in touch, and please keep us — and me — updated.

       

      Warmest regards, 

       

       

      Michel Stroom

      -- 

      Office Everywhere
      Business Partner Odoo

      t: +31 6 53360677
      e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
      w: Office-Everywhere.com

      LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom

       



      On 21 Jan 2025, at 18:03, Manish Mannan (Manish) <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

       

      Hello Community,

      We are in the process of developing a BPM solution on top of Odoo. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated.

      Looking forward to hearing your ideas!

       

      Regards,

       

      Manish Mannan

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      by vickynoida007 - 07:06 - 22 Jan 2025
    • Re: BPM On Odoo
      This seems a variation that comes up every year or so. This should be your starting point, and probably ending point IMO. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/e/2PACX-1vR9VGsSQUnITdnQq5KRiWnY7o-yERCB8YfnqxzhFW5tFcJ8AzMmIQ1CpLTdEgy5Sz9nx-yQlC0BhyGR/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000&slide=id.p 

      On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 10:07 AM Michel Stroom <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Great progress, Manish!

      You already have my full support and my contact details.

      As we’ve discussed, focus on specific industries where workflows play a crucial role. 
      Keep in mind that workflow solutions are typically more suited to larger enterprises rather than smaller ones.

      I’m looking forward to collaborating with you and seeing how we, as the OCA, can contribute to creating the BPM.
      Stay in touch, and please keep us — and me — updated.


      Warmest regards, 


      Michel Stroom
      -- 

      Office Everywhere
      Business Partner Odoo

      t: +31 6 53360677
      e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
      w: Office-Everywhere.com

      LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom



      On 21 Jan 2025, at 18:03, Manish Mannan (Manish) <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Hello Community,

      We are in the process of developing a BPM solution on top of Odoo. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated.

      Looking forward to hearing your ideas!


      Regards,


      Manish Mannan

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      by Graeme Gellatly - 11:22 - 21 Jan 2025
    • Re: BPM On Odoo

      Great progress, Manish!

      You already have my full support and my contact details.

      As we’ve discussed, focus on specific industries where workflows play a crucial role. 
      Keep in mind that workflow solutions are typically more suited to larger enterprises rather than smaller ones.

      I’m looking forward to collaborating with you and seeing how we, as the OCA, can contribute to creating the BPM.
      Stay in touch, and please keep us — and me — updated.


      Warmest regards, 


      Michel Stroom
      -- 

      Office Everywhere
      Business Partner Odoo

      t: +31 6 53360677
      e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
      w: Office-Everywhere.com

      LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom



      On 21 Jan 2025, at 18:03, Manish Mannan (Manish) <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Hello Community,

      We are in the process of developing a BPM solution on top of Odoo. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated.

      Looking forward to hearing your ideas!


      Regards,


      Manish Mannan

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      by Michel Stroom - 10:06 - 21 Jan 2025
    • Re: BPM On Odoo

      Hi Miguelângelo,

       

      if you want to collaborate, Please write me an email at manish@o2b.co.in

       

       

      Regards,

      Manish Mannan

       

       

      From: Miguelângelo Faria Rocha <notifications@odoo-community.org>
      Date: Tuesday, 21 January 2025 at 10:52 PM
      To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
      Subject: Re: BPM On Odoo

      Hello,

       

      For process modeling I have experience and I recommend using this library: https://bpmn.io

       

      Regards,

       

      Miguelângelo

       

      Em ter., 21 de jan. de 2025 às 14:12, Joel Patrick <notifications@odoo-community.org> escreveu:

      That could be useful!  Is there a charter document for that?
      What jobs would a BPM do for a typical Odoo implementation?

      Joel Patrick

       

      On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 12:03 PM Manish Mannan (Manish) <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Hello Community,

      We are in the process of developing a BPM solution on top of Odoo. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated.

      Looking forward to hearing your ideas!

       

      Regards,

      Manish Mannan

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      by Manish Mannan - 06:36 - 21 Jan 2025
    • Re: BPM On Odoo

      Hi Joel,

       

      Thank you for your prompt interest. While we have not yet created a charter document, we are in the process of developing one. I would like to outline the key advantages of building BPM processes on Odoo.

       

      1. Enhanced Process Customization

      While Odoo provides excellent built-in workflows for various business functions, BPM solutions allow for greater flexibility to design, optimize, and adapt custom workflows that align perfectly with an organization’s unique needs. having a BPM Solution could eliminate the need of greater customization.

      2. Cross-Departmental Integration

      Odoo focuses on specific modules (e.g., CRM, Inventory, HR), but BPM solutions can manage end-to-end workflows across multiple departments, ensuring seamless coordination between systems and teams.

      3. Process Automation Beyond Standard Odoo Workflows

      Odoo is excellent for managing standard workflows, but BPM adds layers of automation for complex, multi-step processes that might involve decision-making, approvals, or external integrations.

      4. Visual Process Mapping

      BPM tools often come with drag-and-drop visual designers to model processes intuitively. This visual mapping makes workflows easier to understand, modify, and manage compared to Odoo's backend workflows.

      5. Dynamic Workflow Adjustments

      Odoo workflows may require coding or module adjustments for changes. BPM tools enable real-time updates to processes without heavy technical intervention, saving time and effort during process optimization.

      6. Advanced Reporting and Analytics

      BPM systems provide detailed insights into workflow performance, bottlenecks, and inefficiencies, helping organizations make data-driven decisions. While Odoo offers reports, BPM tools often provide deeper analytics tailored to process optimization.

      7. Improved Compliance Management

      BPM tools are specifically designed to ensure processes comply with industry standards and regulations, enabling better tracking, auditing, and adherence to legal requirements.

      8. Scalability for Complex Organizations

      As businesses grow, their processes become more complex. BPM solutions offer scalability to manage workflows that involve multiple systems, geographies, or external partners, which may be beyond Odoo’s standard capabilities.

      employees can design and modify workflows on their own without IT dependency, fostering innovation and improving overall efficiency.

       

      Key Use Cases for BPM Over Odoo

      • Custom approval workflows that span multiple departments.

      • Automating regulatory compliance processes.

      • Advanced task prioritization and resource allocation.

      • Visualizing bottlenecks and optimizing operational workflows.

      • Rapid adaptation to business changes without disrupting operations.

       

      Conclusion

      While Odoo is a powerful ERP with robust standard workflows, a BPM solution complements it by adding agility, customization, and efficiency, particularly for businesses with unique or highly complex processes. Tools can bridge the gap by empowering organizations to create, manage, and optimize workflows seamlessly.

       

       

       

      Best Regards,

      Manish Mannan

       

      From: Joel Patrick <notifications@odoo-community.org>
      Date: Tuesday, 21 January 2025 at 10:42 PM
      To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
      Subject: Re: BPM On Odoo

      That could be useful!  Is there a charter document for that?
      What jobs would a BPM do for a typical Odoo implementation?

      Joel Patrick

       

      On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 12:03 PM Manish Mannan (Manish) <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

      Hello Community,

      We are in the process of developing a BPM solution on top of Odoo. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated.

      Looking forward to hearing your ideas!

       

      Regards,

      Manish Mannan

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      by Manish Mannan - 06:31 - 21 Jan 2025